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re: This is a solid hire, explain to me the negatives

Posted on 11/30/21 at 4:09 am to
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
967 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 4:09 am to
I checked before this post. His best finish in the last 5 years without Marcus Freeman is 10. At one of the most prestigious programs in the nation.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
55038 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 4:22 am to
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Not a great recruiter and it’s a Jimbo Fisher type meh hire. I’m sure we paid top dollar to get him here. Oh well. It’s better than what just left.


ND has 4th ranked recruiting class

Yall need to educate yourselves on Kelly...

This is a huge hire
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4330 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 5:43 am to
Negative 1) If the dollar amount is true, they overpaid grossly, he was the number 60 guy in salary,and no one was beating his door down
Negative 2) not sure his demeanor will mesh well at LSU
Negative 3). His offense isn’t what it was when he was at Cincinnati, hopefully he goes back to something similar
That being said, I do think he’s a solid hire and will do alright but just over paid for him.
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1894 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 5:59 am to
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Doesn’t recruit well


want to know how i know you don't follow college football?
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6275 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:05 am to
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
7524 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:10 am to
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On the surface, you would think this guy is a great coach, and maybe he is … but when you look a little deeper, you find an insecure man who blames others for his team’s faults, yells, screams and belittles coaches and players.


Sounds a little like another SEC West coach.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4299 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 6:47 am to
“Doesn’t recruit well…” Do you pay attention to football? Kelly recruits across the country and has ND at the #4 recruiting class of 2022.
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1923 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:06 am to
The OP has brought out some absolutely miserable LSU fans. You shitheads will complain about anything. LSU is able to pull a coach from arguably the premiere college football program in America and whose coaching record had produced results that are amount the best in upper tier football. A coach that that guided teams to the playoffs and has coached in high pressure environments. A coach who has recruited at a very high level. Here are nugget for ya….Every damn coach has some kind of baggage. If you don’t think BK is an upgrade from CLM or CEO you are beyond. Is there potential for problems absolutely but this program needs some stability right now. Enjoy the ride LSU as you have created one of the most talked about coaching changes in college football history. That actually is damn good press and advertising for the school.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60099 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:12 am to
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ND has 4th ranked recruiting class

Yall need to educate yourselves on Kelly...


What’s his average?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
60099 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:14 am to
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Doesn’t recruit well…” Do you pay attention to football? Kelly recruits across the country and has ND at the #4 recruiting class of 2022.


Again, what’s his average?
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17121 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:20 am to
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Not a good look for a school trying to make the NCAA happy.


frick the NCAA
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:23 am to
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offensive guru that will light up the score board.


Tell me your a millennial who’s only football knowledge is Xbox without telling me…….
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17121 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:32 am to
In the last 5 years his recruiting ranks were

21 - 4
20 - 9
19 - 18
18 - 15
17 - 10

Considering the academic limitations that’s about the best you could hope for.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30931 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:38 am to
Dude is an absolute idiot and should have the ban hammer dropped on him. Running from thread to thread shitting on the hire because we “settled” for the winningest coach in ND history over the coach of our little cousins in Lafayette.
Posted by FlyFishinTiger
Fayetteville,AR
Member since Mar 2021
942 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 7:45 am to
The vast majority of 4 star generals in the US are right near this age

Also Kelly is an excellent recruiter considering being handcuffed by ND's stringent standards and the fact that he has to get players to come to South Bend ( makes Baton Rouge ) look like Shangri-La.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:01 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52480 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:00 am to
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This is a solid hire, explain to me the negatives


quote:

His record stands for itself.


8-6 against ranked teams in his recent “stellar” years and .500 in his tenure at ND.

Has not gotten a single win in a NY6/CFP bowl in spite of numerous appearances.

And while academic standards played a role in recruiting, the fact that they have consistently been in the top 15 and in a year or two toppled LSU kinda belies that as being the smoking gun handicap.

I’m not unhappy about the hire, but I really don’t see anything to get excited about here.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 8:00 am
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
967 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:04 am to
See above. You’ve cherry picked your data.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:05 am to
....


I got nothing



Maybe he'll only be here for 10 years instead of 20?
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
967 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:05 am to
Want to know how I know you don’t understand the representative nature of statistics? He has the #4 class in one year, well before the period is over with a nearly full class and a brand new DC who happens to be a good coordinator. Look at his track record. You don’t understand what you are talking about.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:07 am to
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rebuild a program in the SEC
my god this is the dumbest shite
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