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re: T/F: those hoping for a Napier hire were the same ones that wanted Orgeron in 2016

Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:11 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Billy hasn’t won his conference despite having the most talent in the conference


The game was cancelled last year & hasn’t been played yet this year

He’s 21-2 in conference games the last 3 years and losses have been to teams that were 13-1 & 11-2 lol
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38680 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Billy hasn’t won his conference despite having the most talent in the conference. That’s a big red flag




Actually he has. Last year they were co champs and Coastal did everything they could to not pmay the game. They will win it this year imo.

And I said who cares about a conference championship if you lose 3 games and have a losing record every other season like kiffin did.

Why can't you acknowledge that napiers record and ull is much better than kiffs was at fau?

Pretty sure 38-12 is better than 26-13. Especially since in the last 3 years nap is 31-5 and 20-2 in last two.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33767 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:15 pm to
Actually I think billy coaching at ulala is what might keep him from getting the LSU job. Some people will never accept us hiring from within the state.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38499 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Last year they were co champs



Just like ole miss was 2003 sec west champs
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38680 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:19 pm to
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Just like ole miss was 2003 sec west champs


Pretty sure ole miss didn't lose the regular season game because they had close to 10 players out with covid

So ull lost by 3 with bunch of players out. Coastal got cg game cancelled because they had equipment guy and assistant coach with it.


Dude nobody wants napier over guys like Riley. Why can't you just acknowledge he is a good coach without jumping through hoops. Personally I would rather aranda also but napier is as proven or more so than Dave.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10828 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:27 pm to
False, and you’re a complete and total fricktard for suggesting this.

The two are completely different in every way. Napier has been a very successful head coach, an offensive guru, and he has a wealth of great experience from different stops in his career.

Orgeron got hired despite an absolutely horrible resume because our AD was lazy af and a horrible negotiator.

We have no reason to believe that the same people wanted both coaches.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 7:28 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:38 pm to
I don't think it's the "one of us" thing really. There is such an overlap b/c of the recruiting addicts
Posted by DownTheBayouBengal
Terrebonne Parish
Member since Apr 2013
178 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:38 pm to
False.
I was firmly against hiring O and am pleased we are moving on from him and his incompetence.
And I think Napier would be a great hire for us.
He checks a lot of boxes.
Napier is way more qualified for this job than 2016 O was.
Posted by O P Walker
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2018
488 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:40 pm to
True. Its the " one of us" bunch
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38680 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:43 pm to
Yea I'm sure the napier crowd is it's one of us but aranda isn't.

Again for you and sfp

Riley says no

Jimbo, fixkel, Cristobal are out. Campbell and tucker stay.

Aranda goes usc

So if Riley says no it's between napier, kiff and stoops. Who you picking?
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
1159 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:45 pm to
People who knew Orgeron personally told me that he was in WAY over his head as HC at LSU . They had no malice towards O , but told me he is a good D-line coach , and that is it . HC at LSU is WAY above his pay grade . They were right , unfortunately .
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17535 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:47 pm to
Bullllllllshit. frick O, always hated the hire.

Napier is an actual football coach. I want him.
It would be a very smart hire.
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

So if Riley says no it's between napier, kiff and stoops. Who you picking?

Kiffin

He's everything Napier allegedly is (offensive guru, recruiting ace, etc) with more skins on the walls
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38680 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

He's everything Napier allegedly is (offensive guru, recruiting ace, etc) with more skins on the walls


More skins how?

26-13 at fau with losing record. Never had back to back good seasons anywhere he has been and he sucks as a recruiter.

Napier at ull >>>>> kiff at fau especially when you consider ull was coming off probation and down to like 60 schollies.

Kiff sucked at usc, sucked at raiders, sucked at UT. But I will say he is the best offensive coach on America imo.

I would rather napier in fact much rather hut I'm ok with kiff. And it would be fun as frick when we were good and hell when we sucked like every other year, atleast it would be exciting.
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:57 pm to
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No one who was thinking clearly wanted Ed Orgeron. No one. He is unfit to be a head coach anywhere including high school.


Although he did assemble the best college football team ever and won a National Title with that team you IF.





Posted by Jb1994
Member since Sep 2018
2116 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:58 pm to
No I don't recall having a 10 win season anywhere prior to lucking into the lsu job
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15772 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 8:59 am to
He assembled it? Right.

Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6694 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:00 am to
100% true
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17751 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:01 am to
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Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17937 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:03 am to
I have no problem with Napier. I had a big problem with O. Neither opinion had anything to do with "one of us".

Keep in mind that no one else wanted O. Several schools are interested in Napier. Therefore, your entire premise is pretty stupid.
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