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re: Outside of the Jameis NC, what has Jimbo done?

Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:34 am to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:34 am to
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Issues


It’s probably pretty hard to function adequately when you got two knives, at least, sticking in your back and placed there by those most trusted by you.

I’m hard-pressed to think that Jimbo will be even coming here, but this idea that some want to put out that he’s some kind of poor football coach not deserving of the LSU job is just ridiculous. imo
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
6490 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:35 am to
If we are being honest, UGA is about to probably win the SEC with a similar Offensive philosophy and a great defense. It can be done in today’s game because there aren’t many physical teams these days that can challenge you.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:30 am to
You have posted this same list on several boards now like it’s irrefutable proof he’s a bad qb evaluator/developer.

First, he got Mond who A&M fans will tell you was never that great of a qb to improve his completion percentage ever single year and get drafted in the 3rd round last year.

Second, how many rosters have multiple studs at QB and always bring in a ringer every year? None. In today’s world with the transfer portal you pretty much have one good qb and that’s it, if the other guy is good he isn’t riding the bench. So when you have a good starter for 2-4 years it’s not imperative you bring in the next Heisman winner every recruiting class, he just had Mond for 3 seasons. For better for worse he stuck with him and it did end up paying off in a NY6 bowl win.

Next, you always seem to leave off the fact we’ve got a high 4 star/low 5 star QB committed for the 2022 class that many people think will challenge for the starting spot in a year.

Finally, Calzada looked like total crap in his first game action and has grown exponentially in just a handful of games under his coaching. Maybe you dock jimbo for not having him better prepared, maybe we credit him for getting him in the right places to succeed and look like a legit D1 QB when he looked like a high school kid in the Colorado game.

Basically your “proof” that he’s a bad QB coach/developer is a bad take. But y’all keep convincing yourself a you don’t want one of 5 active head coaches with national championship.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6249 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:34 am to
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Basically your “proof” that he’s a bad QB coach/developer is a bad take. But y’all keep convincing yourself a you don’t want one of 5 active head coaches with national championship.
Two points here:
1. That’s fair, but you could argue then that he is missing on IDing QB talent if we’re going to accept that the issue isn’t coaching or, more commonly criticized around these parts, scheme

2. How many D1 CFB coaches have won titles at multiple stops? I can think of Saban & Meyer in the modern era + that’s it.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1528 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:38 am to
I'm not saying he can't win. I'm not saying he isn't a good developer. I'm not saying he is a bad coach. His resume says otherwise.

We are witnessing his ceiling until he changes his offensive approach.

He will NEVER win a Natty at A&M. And he will have you in 9-3, 10-2, which is hell.

LSU fans experienced that hell for over a decade.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26961 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:39 am to
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Won a lot of games


Lost to a lot of unranked teams at FSU, too.

Jimbo is Les 2.0, difference being Les was in the SEC and Jimbo was in the ACC.

LSU can, and should, do better than Jimbo. We don’t want an FSU/aggy retread.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2915 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:40 am to
Let’s see:

Jimbo won at natty
3 time ACC champs
115-35 won/loss record (76.7%)
8-2 in bowls
Won a natty as OC
This was done at 2 major P5 schools
Have you seen Florida State post Jimbo?
Posted by purplepanther
Member since Sep 2021
550 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:44 am to
Everyone thinks Jimbo is great, his A&M team is inconsistent just like we are right now. How do you only beat a pathetic 2-6 Colorado team 10-7 and turn around and beat Alabama a couple weeks later? I see the same problems at A&M that LSU has. A&M has improved a lot talent wise, but it doesn’t mean anything if you can’t get that talent to play to its full potential, which is a BIG problem that we have here at LSU. Pumping NFL players out of here like gasoline but can’t even manage to have 9-3 or 10-2 seasons at bare minimum.
Posted by IowaCityTigerFan
Iowa City
Member since Nov 2019
1528 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:49 am to
Since college football moved to the spread.. what has he done?

You keep throwing out 2013 like it was yesterday. Joe Flacco won the Super Bowl in 2013. That is how long it's been. Patrick Mahomes was in High School. Ronda Rousey armbarred some chicks.

It's been a minute. The game is different.

Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:50 pm to
Now insert your Top 3 candidates, and ask what they have done. And please insert their NC, if you can.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1057 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Now insert your Top 3 candidates, and ask what they have done. And please insert their NC, if you can


Better yet... insert what they have done the last 5 or 6 years?? Win/Loss record... that is a better indicator of what they are currently producing right?
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
6249 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:38 pm to
Talking about head coaches baw. Thought that would be obvious by the two examples given.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15758 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:42 pm to
He has 3 rings and one as a head coach
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32580 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:52 pm to
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There are not many coaches with a better resume than Jimbo as far as being considered for a big job.


You could say the same thing about Mack Brown. He has an even better resume. He and Jimbo have the same odds of winning another title (single digits). Should we hire him based on resume?

Do you really want to play the longevity card with a coach who WILL NOT UPDATE HIS OFFENSE? This isn’t conjecture. He proves it every season. It’s not going to happen.
Posted by LSU615
Member since Sep 2014
2284 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:54 pm to
So in order to downplay the idea of Jimbo being the hire, we are calling it the Jameis Winston national championship? Some of y'all are dip shits.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32580 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:55 pm to
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I'm really not worried about Jimbo's offense. He'll either hire a coordinator and get out of the way or learn spread RPO. He's smart enough to know that you can't coach as long as he has without reinventing yourself.


What the frick are you basing this on? Your wishes and hopes if he gets this job? If he hasn’t updated after going decidedly against the grain for 5-7 years now, then he’s not changing. Some of you are fooling yourselves.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32580 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 7:07 pm to
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If we are being honest, UGA is about to probably win the SEC with a similar Offensive philosophy and a great defense. It can be done in today’s game because there aren’t many physical teams these days that can challenge you.


There is nothing smart about propping up a mediocre offensive strategy. LSU could have won a title in 2011 with a generational defense, too. We didn’t because a super-conservative offense that feasts on the defense’s leftovers is fool’s gold and all it takes is one game against an opponent who can hang around or get more creative than you and that’s it. As good as UGA’s defense is, I could absolutely see this happening if they keep trotting Stetson Bennett out there thinking that’s enough.

There is absolutely no reason to not do everything possible to dominate games offensively, no matter how good your defense is. A generational defense that will last one season is not a good reason to adopt a conservative pro-style attack.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32430 posts
Posted on 11/6/21 at 7:58 am to
Bump
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293632 posts
Posted on 11/6/21 at 7:59 am to
I'm with you on Jimbo.

He's not a bad coach, but think hes past his prime and is just another 9-3 guy in perpetuity.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14754 posts
Posted on 11/6/21 at 8:16 am to
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Have you seen Florida State post Jimbo?



Uh. That started UNDER Jimbo.
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