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re: Nebraska fires Bo Pelini
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:55 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:55 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Exactly, the end of partial qualifiers and the NCAA crackdown on steroids ended the NU miracle.
So Nebraska was the only program in the entire nation that took partial qualifiers and had suspicions of steroids?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:56 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Ok so what specifically has changed that doesn't allow Nebraska to recruit nationally?
Massive TV contracts and equal revenue sharing have allowed numerous schools to equal or surpass Nebraska in things like facilities. Why go to Nebraksa when you can now stay closer to home at UCLA or Arizona St and have the same amenities?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:04 am to TheCheshireHog
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Massive TV contracts and equal revenue sharing have allowed numerous schools to equal or surpass Nebraska in things like facilities. Why go to Nebraksa when you can now stay closer to home at UCLA or Arizona St and have the same amenities?
Nebraska still has more money and better facilities than UCLA and Arizona St
Posted on 12/1/14 at 10:52 am to VerlanderBEAST
The #1 factor in recruiting is proximity. Sorry, but it is. This is an unchangebale fact of life. Not every kid stays home, but if you look at any team's roster (except for programs like the service academies and maybe Notre
Dame which have their own weird recruiting), a program draws more on local players and then occasionally reaches out past its borders.
And not only is Nebraska a wasteland for football talent, it is nowhere really near any other football talent hotbeds. Nebraska is fighting a war against geography. So is Oklahoma to a lesser extent, but it's close enough to Dallas to mitigate it. Nebraska has to convince kids to leave Chicago to come to Lincoln.
Dame which have their own weird recruiting), a program draws more on local players and then occasionally reaches out past its borders.
And not only is Nebraska a wasteland for football talent, it is nowhere really near any other football talent hotbeds. Nebraska is fighting a war against geography. So is Oklahoma to a lesser extent, but it's close enough to Dallas to mitigate it. Nebraska has to convince kids to leave Chicago to come to Lincoln.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:04 am to DandyD
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Check out Scott Frost, OC Oregon who is a Husker.
Not surprised I'm seeing his name because of his history but the guy isn't ready yet. He kind of sucked as an OC last year, his first. He did much better this year but still has a long way to go before he's head coaching material IMO.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:05 am to The_Joker
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So what happens to Faux Pelini?
I'm not going to lie - this was one of my first thoughts upon hearing the news of Pelini being let go
Isn't the guy who runs it a Nebraska fan? Surely he'll just keep it going if Pelini gets another HC job, since it's so popular.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:07 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Nebraska still has more money and better facilities than UCLA and Arizona St
slightly better facilities
much uglier girls
much worse climate
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:11 am to Requiem for a Dream
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OK so let's say that Les Miles wins 9 games per year, beating his OOC opponents and lower-tier SEC foes such as Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Kentucky every year. Yet every year whenever they play Bama or Auburn they get blown out on national TV in embarrassing fashion (similar to the Auburn game this year). Even though they have 9 wins per year they have no SEC championships or BCS bowl berths. Would you be satisfied with that and continue to support it after 7 years of the same thing? Of course not.
LSU is a superior program to NU right now and it's going to take a massive devolution of CFB (and the entertainment industry of CFB) for NU to ever overtake LSU again. we have the local talent. we have the money. and NU can't use shitty tv rules to get an unfair national advantage in exposure (and LSU is far ahead of NU in this regard today)
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In my opinion the only way Nebraska can return to elite status is if they pay big $$ to bring a top name to Lincoln, someone who can recruit and lure kids there.
Nick Saban would have major issues winning the Big10 consistently (OSU has a major advantage in recruiting in that conference)
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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Arizona St
If you can't get laid by a fine woman at Arizona State, it's your own damn fault.
I literally heard an Arizona State coed quoted one time as saying that they're in the middle of the desert and there's nothing else to do. So they have a lot of sex.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:21 am to Godfather1
quote:Tosh.O?
I literally heard an Arizona State coed quoted one time as saying that they're in the middle of the desert and there's nothing else to do. So they have a lot of sex.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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Nick Saban would have major issues winning the Big10 consistently (OSU has a major advantage in recruiting in that conference)
Nick Saban DID have a hard time winning in the Big Ten when he was at Michigan State.
I cannot believe I have heard RichRod's name being dropped. Didn't anybody from Nebraska pullup the game tapes from when he was at Michigan and how the conference schools ripped through his teams there?
Nebraska just made a huge mistake by getting rid of Pelini. What coach worth his salt wants to go to a place where 9 & 10 win seasons isn't good enough and gets you fired?
If we're talking about conference titles Nebraska was in the hunt to win the division up until the next to last game of the season. It was a four way playoff between Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin to end the season. Minnesota and Wisconsin won their games against Nebraska and Iowa which set up there showdown last weeekend that Wisconsin won. Don't tell me Bo never had Nebraska in contention for a conference title, he did this season and had taken the Huskers to two conference championship games. He just hadn't gotten over the hump yet.
Being an Iowa fan I obviously hope this blows up in their face and I am most certainly biased against Nebraska. I am also looking at facts. Facts are the college landscape has changed. Facts are everybody is on TV now. Facts are most programs have a ton of money to throw at facilities and a football program. Facts are Nebraska is not in a recruiting hotbed, and the competition for recruits has them driving by other major schools that can offer them just as much as Nebraska can while on their way to Lincoln. Facts are the 90's aren't coming back and Nebraska isn't what it used to be.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:34 am to Baloo
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The #1 factor in recruiting is proximity. Sorry, but it is. This is an unchangebale fact of life. Not every kid stays home, but if you look at any team's roster (except for programs like the service academies and maybe Notre
Dame which have their own weird recruiting), a program draws more on local players and then occasionally reaches out past its borders.
And not only is Nebraska a wasteland for football talent, it is nowhere really near any other football talent hotbeds. Nebraska is fighting a war against geography. So is Oklahoma to a lesser extent, but it's close enough to Dallas to mitigate it. Nebraska has to convince kids to leave Chicago to come to Lincoln.
Yet some how they've recruited there way in to one of the elite programs in college football history.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:38 am to SoDakHawk
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Nebraska just made a huge mistake by getting rid of Pelini. What coach worth his salt wants to go to a place where 9 & 10 win seasons isn't good enough and gets you fired?
Not to mention the fact that Nebraska is hind tit for recruits in the B1G's main recruiting hotspot of Ohio/Michigan.
I might be one of the few who have actually been to the NU campus. It's a nice quiet place, in the middle of fricking nowhere. NU is honestly extremely similar to KSU: they have one (in NU's case, 2) coach who elevated the program because he was a goddamned genius. Before Devaney and Osborne, Nebraska was awful and had never won a bowl game (first win was 1962). They lucked out because they got Osborne when he was young and kept him.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:43 am to cokebottleag
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Before Devaney and Osborne, Nebraska was awful
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:43 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Nebraska still has more money and better facilities than UCLA and Arizona St
No one really wants to go to Nebraska anymore.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 11:46 am to Hogwall Jackson
quote:In the 90's no one wanted to go to Oklahoma or USC anymore anymore, In the early/mid 00s no one wanted to go to Alabama anymore,
No one really wants to go to Nebraska anymore.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LSU is a superior program to NU right now and it's going to take a massive devolution of CFB (and the entertainment industry of CFB) for NU to ever overtake LSU again. we have the local talent. we have the money. and NU can't use shitty tv rules to get an unfair national advantage in exposure (and LSU is far ahead of NU in this regard today)
That didn't answer my question.
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No one really wants to go to Nebraska anymore.
Kendall Bussey says hello
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:03 pm to SoDakHawk
Iowa is totally irrelevant on the college football landscape. One of the biggest reasons Nebraska is looking to make a change is because they don't want to sink to the level of programs such as Iowa. Didn't you hear Eichorst's press conference where he took a shot at Iowa?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:08 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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Kendall Bussey says hello
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Kendall Bussey™ @KBJ_5 · Nov 30
Well......*scratches head* ??
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The 5-foot-8, 192-pound Bussey made his decision known just hours after former Nebraska coach Bo Pelini was fired Sunday at the end of a 9-3 regular season.
"Coach Pelini is a great man and a big reason why I found Lincoln to be a good home for me," Bussey wrote. "Thanks to the university of Nebraska and all of those who have supported me and while I have not entirely closed (the) door on Nebraska, I feel that it is in my best interest to reopen my recruitment."
You were saying?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:32 pm to bbrownso
Yeah, I know he re-opened his recruitment. That doesn't change the fact that he was planning on going to Nebraska.
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