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re: Nebraska fires Bo Pelini
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:51 pm to Requiem for a Dream
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:51 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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That doesn't change the fact that he was planning on going to Nebraska
Well it does lead to an inference that it wasn't Nebraska that appealed to him as much as playing for Bo Pelini.
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:54 pm to bbrownso
Fair enough.
My point is, with the right coach in place, top recruits are still wanting to play at Nebraska.
My point is, with the right coach in place, top recruits are still wanting to play at Nebraska.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 1:59 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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Iowa is totally irrelevant on the college football landscape. One of the biggest reasons Nebraska is looking to make a change is because they don't want to sink to the level of programs such as Iowa. Didn't you hear Eichorst's press conference where he took a shot at Iowa?
Funny, Iowa has won conference championships since the start of the century, multiple times. Iowa has also been to a couple of BCS bowls and won one as recently as 2009.
Tell me, what has Nebraska accomplished? I don't see any conference titles. I don't see any big bowl wins.
Now, who is irrelevant again?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:12 pm to SoDakHawk
How many national championships has Iowa won?
Um, yeah.
Um, yeah.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:16 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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How many national championships has Iowa won?
Um, yeah.
In this century? Zero. Same number as Nebraska.
I have not heard a single pundit or anybody else outside the state of Nebraska say that the Huskers could rise back to national prominance. Everybody seems to agree their time has passed. Only delusional Husker fans are gripping on to the past. That is the reason you made the mistake of firing a coach that gets you 9 to 10 wins regularly.
No coach worth a crap is going to want to go to a place where 9 wins a year gets you fired.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 2:24 pm to SoDakHawk
Keep telling yourself that 
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Yet some how they've recruited there way in to one of the elite programs in college football history.
they had a huge bias/advantage in being one of the chosen few who got on national TV before cable became standard
other schools who had that bias have remained relevant by being near population centers that produce top-level talent (USC, OSU, UM, PSU, Bama, OU, etc). Nebraska is fricked in that regard
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Nebraska's territory is Nebraska/Kansas/Missouri + cherry picking nationally and JUCOs
exactly my point
they're fricked
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:23 pm to Requiem for a Dream
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No one really wants to go to Nebraska anymore.
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Kendall Bussey says hello
This guy? This 3-star recruit?
i see he's a 4-star on Yahoo/Rivals
if you're bragging about a 3/4 star without major offers from any elite school (looks like Notre Dame or TAMU is the top of the list) as your example of being a hot spot for recruits, well, then i think my point is made.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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exactly my point
they're fricked
If they were to lock down KS, MO, CO, and NE this year, it would net them the following:
13 4*-----Even if they hit on half of them, that's not a bad start. Pelini ignored his own area for some reason.
48 3*-----Pick the best of these. Here is where evaluation is key.
Hit the KS Jucos and try to get about 5-7 kids nationally and you can compete on a national scale with a great system and good coaching.
It's not as easy as the UT, UF, LSU, Alabama, USC's of the world. However, it's not impossible to win championships too. Look at Oregon. Look at TCU who hasn't recruited much better than NU.
Plus, UT, UF, and USC have shown us it's not quite as easy as just recruit 5 stars and let it ride.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:34 pm to Moustache
but they still have to compete with OSU/UM/PSU, who have a MAJOR advantage in recruiting, geographically
this isn't a vacuum. and relying on 6 4-star guys and evaluation of 3 star guys isn't going to do anything consistently
TCU is playing in a down conference right now whose power schools are in transitions
Ohio State is still Ohio State in the Big10
this isn't a vacuum. and relying on 6 4-star guys and evaluation of 3 star guys isn't going to do anything consistently
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Look at Oregon. Look at TCU who hasn't recruited much better than NU.
TCU is playing in a down conference right now whose power schools are in transitions
Ohio State is still Ohio State in the Big10
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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but they still have to compete with OSU/UM/PSU, who have a MAJOR advantage in recruiting, geographically
True, but they're on the other side of the conference. Nebraska won't be Alabama and dominate every year. But they can compete for the B1G just like MSU (who hasn't recruited better than NU according to rankings).
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and relying on 6 4-star guys and evaluation of 3 star guys isn't going to do anything consistently
Signed,
Oregon, TCU, Wisconsin
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TCU is playing in a down conference right now whose power schools are in transitions
And what about that is different from the B1G? Michigan is terrible and PSU is still recovering. I'm with you though. I'd argue PSU is a much better job than Michigan.
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Ohio State is still Ohio State in the Big10
Yet little old VT beat them. MSU beat them last year with a bunch of senior 3 stars. There's something to be said having an upper classmen team vs. a team of 5 stars who are constantly young.
Again, I'm not saying NU can be Bama with national consistency. However, who else but Bama is?
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:43 pm to SoDakHawk
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I have not heard a single pundit or anybody else outside the state of Nebraska say that the Huskers could rise back to national prominance. Everybody seems to agree their time has passed. Only delusional Husker fans are gripping on to the past.
Blah blah blah same thing was said about USC and Oklahoma before Carroll/Stoops. They said it about Alabama before Saban.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:47 pm to Moustache
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Oregon, TCU, Wisconsin
TCU sucked last year
Oregon recruits ok, but they hit the hell out of Cali and TX. at best NU gets to sniff TX. recruiting services do not give proper respect to areas of high talent and they overrate areas of low talent. over time, relying on 3-stars from CA, TX, LA, OH, FL, etc is going to give you much better rewards than relying on 3-stars from KA, NE, MO, etc. this is also why TCU can recruit at the same level...according to recruiting services, but end up better (even though they're not consistent)
i'll give you wisconsin, but they're not that different than NU under Bo P, and they get to dodge OSU some years (like this one)
2014: 10-2 (did not play OSU)
2013: 9-3
2012: 8-4
2011: 10-2
Posted on 12/1/14 at 4:49 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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same thing was said about USC and Oklahoma before Carroll/Stoops
USC: california recruiting
OU: north texas recruiting
Nebraska: Nebraska recruiting
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They said it about Alabama before Saban.
literally nobody said this about Alabama. we (SEC West, namely Auburn and LSU) were all happy that they kept hiring Shula-level coaches and shite ourselves at Saban going there when those rumors surfaced.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if you're bragging about a 3/4 star without major offers from any elite school (looks like Notre Dame or TAMU is the top of the list) as your example of being a hot spot for recruits, well, then i think my point is made.
I suggest you check out Nebraska's list of current commitments. Several 4-star guys with plenty of offers from major schools. Bussey is from New Orleans, Stanley Morgan is from New Orleans, Ameer Abdullah is from Alabama... just some examples of guys who live nowhere close to Nebraska who are wanting to go there.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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USC: california recruiting
OU: north texas recruiting
Nebraska: Nebraska recruiting
Herp Derp if all that matters was proximity to to talent rich areas then how was Nebraska ever good for all those decades?
Oh and FYI Eric Crouch, Dean Steinkuhler, Dave Rimington, Ahman Green, Johnny Rodgers and countless other Nebraska greats were in state players
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literally nobody said this about Alabama. we (SEC West, namely Auburn and LSU) were all happy that they kept hiring Shula-level coaches and shite ourselves at Saban going there when those rumors surfaced.
And Rival fans aren't happy nebraska keeps hiring Callhan and Pellini caliber coaches?
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 5:48 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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how was Nebraska ever good for all those decades then?
other than abusing things like steroids and partial qualifiers (and no, not every program abused partial qualifiers or took on character issue guys like NU), institutional advantages
in the 80s and even early 90s, there simply were not that many teams on TV. Nebraska was one of those lucky programs
getting recruited by a Nebraska was a MAJOR thing back in those days. they could sell that to guys from Cali, LA, etc.
NU was also lucky that USC, OU and UT were down (to open up long-distnce recruiting via TX/Cali). just like UTenn was lucky that UGA and USC were down in the 90s to build their monsters. once those programs emerged, the non-state talent went elsewhere and NU/UTenn declined
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And Rival fans aren't happy nebraska keeps hiring Callhan and Pellini caliber coaches?
rivals aren't scared of Nebraska anymore. it's shown that it is a has been program with major recruiting issues
recruiting is life in college football. hell that's how guys like Orgeron, Larry Porter, Kiffin, etc got head coaching jobs either after being positional coaches or abject failures.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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other than abusing things like steroids and partial qualifiers (and no, not every program abused partial qualifiers or took on character issue guys like NU), institutional advantages
so all these other programs just stood by and watched Nebraska abuse patrial qualifiers and steroids? You don't actuallyt believe that do you? quote:
in the 80s and even early 90s, there simply were not that many teams on TV. Nebraska was one of those lucky programs
So it was luck that got teams like Nebraska, Michigan Notre Dame etc on TV not the fact that they established themselves as powerhouses by dominating for decades prior.
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NU was also lucky that USC, OU and UT were down (to open up long-distnce recruiting via TX/Cali). just like UTenn was lucky that UGA and USC were down in the 90s to build their monsters. once those programs emerged, the non-state talent went elsewhere and NU/UTenn declined
Yeah because Nebraska just got good in the 90's? Nebraska' has been a powerhouse since the late 20's
Oh and since when was Nebraska ever big in to recruiting Texas? I would bet Nebraska's never had more than 5 players from Texas on their roster
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rivals aren't scared of Nebraska anymore. it's shown that it is a has been program with major recruiting issues
And in the 90s it was shown USC and Oklahoma had major recruiting issues Pre-Saban it was shown Alabama had major recruiting issues.
This post was edited on 12/1/14 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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recruiting is life in college football. hell that's how guys like Orgeron, Larry Porter, Kiffin, etc got head coaching jobs either after being positional coaches or abject failures.
You need recruiting, but it can't win by itself. I think UT, UF, FSU (00-12) has shown that.
You need coaching and development as well.
Posted on 12/1/14 at 6:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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other than abusing things like steroids and partial qualifiers
Partial qualifiers were taken in the entire big 8 and SWC. NU still dominated.
WHy single out NU for steroids? EVERY team and I mean EVERY team abused steroids in the 80s and early 90s.
I understand you need recruiting to win. However, you don't need 5 stars every year to win conference champoinships and BCS bowl games.
Look back at the most talented Nebraska players of the 90s. Most were from a 500 mile radius of NE.
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