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Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:49 am to deuce985
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Freeman might be the luckiest first time HC ever. He
Lincoln Riley says hi, but I agree with all of what you said. Freeman will definitely be the luckoest if ND ends up in the playoff.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:52 am to LSUSkip
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Freeman might be the luckiest first time HC ever. He
Lincoln Riley says hi, but I agree with all of what you said. Freeman will definitely be the luckoest if ND ends up in the playoff.
OSU might get in over N.D..
Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:57 am to MarkGolf
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Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense
Sounds familiar
In all seriousness he will find out quick you either adapt or die in the sec. I think what will help him out the most is how physics his teams play. Hard to get out schemed when you can push around the defensive front 7.
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Will often leave more talented and even game-breaking players on the bench in favor of lesser-talented - and in some cases, far less talented - players he considers more fundamentally sound.
Meh I think is more subjective than anything. He wins enough games to get the benefit of the doubt over who he plays.
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Plays not to lose instead of playing aggressively to win.
This is also subjective. Again it’s hard to argue his philosophy when he wins 10 games a year.
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Often struggles to beat teams that have far less talent and gets blown out in big games. Very poor record against Top 10 teams.
Truthfully, who gives a shite about not blowing teams out. If he wins and nobody gets hurt then that’s all that really matters. Getting blown out in big teams is more of a symptom of being at ND than his coaching prowess. ND has been getting shite on in big games since I’ve been alive. That’s not a BK issue.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:05 am to MarkGolf
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Playing down to the competition and not being competitive against the Alabamas and Georgias, or any other team that is legit.
We are LSU. We almost beat Alabama this year with a depleted roster and Ed Orgeron as coach. The SEC battle hardens teams unlike Notre Dame only playing great teams in the playoffs.
Look, this just looks like sour grapes.
No coach is perfect. They are almost all complete jerks. There are downsides everywhere. But, the only way LSU isn’t competitive with Alabama and Georgia is if we completely fall apart, in which case, Kelly will be fired anyway.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 1:08 am
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:20 am to MarkGolf
Notre Dame made an absolute horrible hire in Freeman and have backed themselves into a corner.
Either Freeman is a total failure and sets the ND program back 10 yrs or Freeman has immediate success and bolts for Ohio State in a few years when Day decides to move on to the NFL.
Can’t wait to see it all unfold. BTW, my money is on Freeman being fired in 3 years
Either Freeman is a total failure and sets the ND program back 10 yrs or Freeman has immediate success and bolts for Ohio State in a few years when Day decides to move on to the NFL.
Can’t wait to see it all unfold. BTW, my money is on Freeman being fired in 3 years
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:31 am to MarkGolf
Appreciate the perspective. I don’t take Rees seriously as an offensive mind. I think BK knew he could get big Irish and Polish and other Midwesterners to be linemen there. He adjusts to personnel. He originally tried to be more innovative at ND. I think he will change or get a coordinator deserving of more control.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 2:24 am to MarkGolf
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- Mediocre to terrible at offensive game planning and game management. Head-scratching playcalling. Often has no Plan B, much less Plan C, when Plan A isn't working on offense.
This is my concern. Hoping he hires an OC he trusts to get it done.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 2:26 am
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:39 am to MarkGolf
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- You will find BK is not a nice guy. You can justify it by saying nice guys finish last, and he's there not to make friends and his job is to win.
This is what this program needed. Too many coaches, kids and parents getting a pass because they are buddies, star recruit or know someone. I hope he shuts all that shite down.
I do agree with you on winning big games, I said he would probably be a very steady coach but good for a couple or three losses a year.
The players he'll coach here are like nothing he's had before. Yeah he got some talent to ND, but to a man they have never been as talented as several of LSU's top teams have been.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 4:51 am to MarkGolf
Thanks for this. The best think I got out of this was he was willing to not play very talented players……. That’s TEAM culture. You will remember the early season dust up about Saban not playing Billingsley. You have to earn the right to play. You don’t get it cause your a 5 star.
We had a few of those the last two years. It creates a dysfunctional locker room
Again thanks for your perspective.
We had a few of those the last two years. It creates a dysfunctional locker room
Again thanks for your perspective.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:23 am to MarkGolf
You sound whiny and butthurt that your coach left. If you don’t think so, go back and read your OP.
ND folks, and the media, are upset that BK left the almighty and holier than thou ND for the backwoods bumpkin LSU. BK wanted to compete on the highest level of college football. ND may have great tradition, by they are in no way competing at the highest level of college football.
ND folks, and the media, are upset that BK left the almighty and holier than thou ND for the backwoods bumpkin LSU. BK wanted to compete on the highest level of college football. ND may have great tradition, by they are in no way competing at the highest level of college football.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:27 am to MarkGolf
Thanks for the honest assesment. It lines up with what I’ve perceived and heard about him before he came here. Which is one reason I wasn’t very excited- and won’t be until we start to see what happens on the field during games. I will say this- he will be head and shoulders above the last two coaches we’ve had.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:52 am to MarkGolf
Notre Dame fans thought he was a very good coach until he left their school for a better gig.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:00 am to MarkGolf
Lol. My entire in law family are Irish fans and they have as much hurt feelings as you do. I’ve been tortured by having to watch notre dame football games since 2015. They say the same things you’re saying because your feelings are hurt. His offenses play not to lose and they’re conservative etc. do you remember his offenses at Cinci? You midwestern fuks act like this was BKs first stop. His offenses at Cinci were dominant. But you’re only going to blame the mediocre offenses on kelt at ND? This is the truth. Notre Dame will not win another championship. This isn’t 1990. Your academic restrictions won’t allow you to pull the athletes to compete with the truly elite programs. You also don’t get the qbs to run elite level offenses which isn’t changing. The truth of the matter is Kelly is a top 3-5 coach in the country. He said he wants to play with and against the best. Your feelings are hurt because of that because that means you all are no longer considered one of the best.
On top of that i don’t care about hiring nice guys. Saban may be one of the angriest people ever and it’s all about winning games.
Where were notre dame self righteous fans saying all of these things about the way Kelly left when he left Cincinnati the same way? You’re all hypocritical self rightous doosh bags. It’s tough pill to swallow. Grab a glass of water and keep trying.
On top of that i don’t care about hiring nice guys. Saban may be one of the angriest people ever and it’s all about winning games.
Where were notre dame self righteous fans saying all of these things about the way Kelly left when he left Cincinnati the same way? You’re all hypocritical self rightous doosh bags. It’s tough pill to swallow. Grab a glass of water and keep trying.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:22 am to RawDog7984
Damn I feel sorry for you. ND and its fans are insufferable morons including this here dommer. Fug em and feed em fish heads.
While he might end up with one or two, I don't like Kelly not bringing a single coach with him. That's unprecedented for a coach of his standing. He's a huge upgrade over the meathead we just fired but starting from scratch isn't what he intended based on the offer for Rees.
While he might end up with one or two, I don't like Kelly not bringing a single coach with him. That's unprecedented for a coach of his standing. He's a huge upgrade over the meathead we just fired but starting from scratch isn't what he intended based on the offer for Rees.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:29 am to IowaCityTigerFan
Great post
Assistants choosing to stay during a playoff run while simultaneously getting promotions and raises is no surprise to anyone except those feigning outrage simply bc LSU had the audacity to make a great hire and at the expense of a media darling no less. Make no mistake, THAT is the motive behind the media blitz you’ve seen the last few days.
If any of his assistants choose to come that’s fine, if not that’s not a concern. We’ve been through this before and it turned out ok. One of Kelly’s strengths is assembling a strong staff everywhere he’s been. We hired him bc he wins a lot. There’s a reason for that and it’s not coordinators who have worked for him for a year. Again, media spin bc LSU did what the media thinks we have no right doing. We have the nerve to think we can compete with anyone and we just took a coach from one of their media darlings who will certainly have us in the hunt each year.
The media is clinging to anything they can to portray him in a bad light at this time. Guess what? It won’t matter. He’s gonna win like he always has and nobody will care that he left another school to come here. It’s a business and it’s very competitive. And it’s a free market where people get to make such choices all the time. This thinly veiled feigned outrage is a joke and hypocrisy at its finest.
As far as any concerns regarding in game play calling, etc., again not worried. He wins 10-11 games a year as a habit. That ain’t bc if first year coordinators or bad coaching nor is it bc of bad playcalling.
All the sour grapes from Notre dame and rival sec fans do is make me smile bc it tells me one thing: we won. We hired a guy who can get us there and keep us there for the next 10-15 years. And they know it. We weren’t supposed to do this. How dare we think we have the clout to hire such a coach. They all had us hiring a mark stoops or Napier type.
Instead, Scott Woodward dropped his nuts all over college football, the sec, and the self proclaimed blue bloods.
Merry Christmas
Assistants choosing to stay during a playoff run while simultaneously getting promotions and raises is no surprise to anyone except those feigning outrage simply bc LSU had the audacity to make a great hire and at the expense of a media darling no less. Make no mistake, THAT is the motive behind the media blitz you’ve seen the last few days.
If any of his assistants choose to come that’s fine, if not that’s not a concern. We’ve been through this before and it turned out ok. One of Kelly’s strengths is assembling a strong staff everywhere he’s been. We hired him bc he wins a lot. There’s a reason for that and it’s not coordinators who have worked for him for a year. Again, media spin bc LSU did what the media thinks we have no right doing. We have the nerve to think we can compete with anyone and we just took a coach from one of their media darlings who will certainly have us in the hunt each year.
The media is clinging to anything they can to portray him in a bad light at this time. Guess what? It won’t matter. He’s gonna win like he always has and nobody will care that he left another school to come here. It’s a business and it’s very competitive. And it’s a free market where people get to make such choices all the time. This thinly veiled feigned outrage is a joke and hypocrisy at its finest.
As far as any concerns regarding in game play calling, etc., again not worried. He wins 10-11 games a year as a habit. That ain’t bc if first year coordinators or bad coaching nor is it bc of bad playcalling.
All the sour grapes from Notre dame and rival sec fans do is make me smile bc it tells me one thing: we won. We hired a guy who can get us there and keep us there for the next 10-15 years. And they know it. We weren’t supposed to do this. How dare we think we have the clout to hire such a coach. They all had us hiring a mark stoops or Napier type.
Instead, Scott Woodward dropped his nuts all over college football, the sec, and the self proclaimed blue bloods.
Merry Christmas
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:32 am to MarkGolf
We don't have to worry about his "big game woes" here, because he will have far more talent. At Notre Dame its harder to beat good teams because you're at a disadvantage.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:34 am to MarkGolf
Appreciate your fair and even-handed insight, Mark. All reasonable comments on both sides from you. Come visit from time to time.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:39 am to Syntax
Yet you’re probably one of the people crying about he and his staff having no ties to the south aren’t you? Some of y’all are so miserable it’s comical. You’d bitch about anything
LSU just hired a frickin hall of fame caliber coach and you wanna pretend he can’t hire a staff or call a game
GTFO
LSU just hired a frickin hall of fame caliber coach and you wanna pretend he can’t hire a staff or call a game
GTFO
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:53 am to MarkGolf
Kelly’s assistants not coming is logical.
1. Freeman obviously must stay since ND gave him a job he wouldn’t have earned until several more years as a DC and then 4-5 as a HC at a smaller university. He might adjust, but I think this is a big ND mistake in the long run.
2. Rest of staff get to keep known jobs with 3 year security, will get raises, and now consider their new boss a coworker friend. Worse case they now have a year or two to find their next opportunity.
Not being able to play with compilation is because ND lacks talent, same thing with Oklahoma. This is not a LSU problem.
Kelly isn’t a nice guy? Compared to Nick the Dick he’s a saint. Not looking to marry a daughter off to the SOB, just want a football coach.
Puts his thumb on the offensive side of the scale? Well let’s see what that does.
Your five fast pros combined with LSU talent makes me think FOREVER LSU!
You might want to become a Tiger fan!
1. Freeman obviously must stay since ND gave him a job he wouldn’t have earned until several more years as a DC and then 4-5 as a HC at a smaller university. He might adjust, but I think this is a big ND mistake in the long run.
2. Rest of staff get to keep known jobs with 3 year security, will get raises, and now consider their new boss a coworker friend. Worse case they now have a year or two to find their next opportunity.
Not being able to play with compilation is because ND lacks talent, same thing with Oklahoma. This is not a LSU problem.
Kelly isn’t a nice guy? Compared to Nick the Dick he’s a saint. Not looking to marry a daughter off to the SOB, just want a football coach.
Puts his thumb on the offensive side of the scale? Well let’s see what that does.
Your five fast pros combined with LSU talent makes me think FOREVER LSU!
You might want to become a Tiger fan!
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