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re: Napier is the right choice. He is a young Saban.

Posted on 11/2/21 at 12:02 am to
Posted by GeauxJZK
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
1642 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 12:02 am to
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what evidence is there that he can actually be successful at the next level as an SEC head coach?


Maybe the fact that his team has been better than LSU with all our top 5 recruiting classes the last two years. Give him our talent and see what he does.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3173 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 12:07 am to
Watch out for Florida.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 12:27 am to
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He is a young Saban

There is no young saban. There is 1 saban.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8140 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:45 am to
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Maybe the fact that his team has been better than LSU with all our top 5 recruiting classes the last two years.
That's a stretch. Their whole schedule is sun belt teams. Even when LSU sucks they still beat teams that aren't P5 with great regularity. ULL only played two P5 teams in those two years. They beat Iowa State last year and lost to Texas this year. That's 1-1 against good (not great) P5 teams.

And assuming that is the case, then why don't we go get Jamey Chadwell from Coastal Carolina? He's got a better record over the same span and beat ULL last year.

I'm not saying Napier is a bad coach. I'm sure he's very good. But I don't see how a program like LSU that has so much invested in their football program can risk getting a HC that has no experience at the P5 level. That just seems like a crap shoot.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8140 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:49 am to
Come on! Somebody sell me on this guy! He's got to have something for Auburn to consider him. A couple of 1 loss years in the Sun Belt is nice, but that's not enough. He worked for Saban, but only as a WR coach, right? Why is he in the mix?
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1911 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:18 am to
Make it 4.
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4374 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:26 am to
He is.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26750 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:30 am to
I’ll say this. I have heard a couple of interviews with Napier and he is impressive. Very structured the way he runs a program and really loves to recruit. He is the son of a coach and has lived his whole life to coach. His experience to date is my concern but I could see him being successful in Baton Rouge.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:13 am to
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He worked for Saban, but only as a WR coach, right? Why is he in the mix?
He worked first as an analyst, then promoted to WR coach, then as quality control being the back end (non-coach) version of recruiting coordinator.

If you notice Napier and Burton Burns would both be moved back and forth from "in front", i.e. a recruiting coach, to "in the rear". Saban liked to have one working the shadow staff for recruiting and one working the legit recruiting coaches. And I'll also note, in the few documented cases, reports or pictures, either Burns or Napier were always with Saban on home visits. Those were his two most trusted recruiting advisors (I'd say Burns was 1a). But Saban's shadow staff does ALOT of recruiting other than visits. It's a division of labor so that the coaches that can make visits do so at the maximum rate and the RC on the shadow staff is doing everything but that and providing the resources (the data behind the sales pitches) at the same rate to match those in front of recruits.

One of the reasons they alternated was because that rate of being in front of recruits burns people out. It's one of the reasons they have such a high turnover on staff. But Saban managed Burns and Napier in way so they didn't get overworked over years so they'd provide the consistency in the process as long as he could.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
15753 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:14 am to
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Then he was hired to ULL and is winning in the Sunbelt. What about that is so impressive?
He's had that previously bottom of the barrel pit stain program in the Top 25 for the last 3 years.

He did this at the State of Louisiana's largest Junior College. (Call them what you want, they're all JC's outside of LSU, Tulane and La.Tech)

That's impressive in itself.

It's baffling to me as to why so many of you are blind to this fact.........

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64332 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:16 am to
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He's had that previously bottom of the barrel pit stain program in the Top 25 for the last 3 years.



They were not "bottom of the barrell". Hudspeth had winning seasons and bowl appearances right before Napier became the HC.

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35836 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:39 am to
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They were not "bottom of the barrell". Hudspeth had winning seasons and bowl appearances right before Napier became the


Hopefully LSU can get back to that level of success.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16704 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:52 am to
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They were not "bottom of the barrell". Hudspeth had winning seasons and bowl appearances right before Napier became the HC.

That isn't entirely accurate either.
Huds' last 3 seasons:
5-7
6-7
4-8
He had 4 straight 9-4 seasons (2011-2014) and had to vacate 22 of those wins due to academic fraud and paying players.

I've been outspoken in how much I like Napier, but the "next Saban" talk is hyperbole. He's learned under Saban and has used Saban's structure to build the ULL program. O did the same thing when Kiffin talked to him about how Nick built his staff.

I won't be upset at all if Napier becomes the pick, but I will be honest that he is the riskiest of the names being tossed around.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
57000 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:56 am to
But Saban said he's coaching another 10 years
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