re: If Riley says no so late that we lose Aranda, would that be considered a huge fail?

Give Riley a deadline , then move on . Don’t get left waiting at the altar !

Hopefully Woodward has more than one backup. I’d go after Campbell before Napier. This was my biggest fear when all of the “Riley to LSU” rumors started circulating…that he would string us along until the 11th hour then back out. In the meantime all of the other quality candidates get offers and we’re left with the bottom of the barrel.

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I have Riley as 1 and Aranda as 2 and I think that should be everyone's 1/2 these days, but there is a lot of smoke that Aranda and USC have mutual interest. I don't know if our window is very open for Aranda, and it appears Riley is dragging this out.

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jake man...you are being stupid, Riley isnt dragging anything out. Yall are impatient as frick man. nothing gets done in season, nothing

Aranda is prolly goign USC no matter what. So many people assume he would crawl back here. His parents, his wives parents, his brother are all in Southern cal within 45min of LA.

USC is his dream school, its home etc

Dave also wasnt happy with a couple of the things that went down when he left.

he is going to take usc if its remotely close in money.

I have been saying for 2 weeks....its going to be Riley or bust with Napier as the fall back.

Jimbo is a no
fickel was a no
cristoball isnt leaving and wasnt asked
Campbell isnt going to leave ISU until kids are older

it leaves Napier, Kiffin, Chadwell, stoops and Gundy left.

so essentially Napier vs Kiffin vs stoops. SW has Napier ahead of aranda and kiffin.

essentially its

Riley
jimbo
fickel
napier
aranda
campbell
stoops
kiffin

in the end riley says no, next 2 stay home, aranda goes usc, campbell stays. we choose napier over kiff and stoops.

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The earliest Riley could put pen to paper is after the Big 12 championship game.

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Does this mark change to see the Sunday after the Oklahoma State game, assuming they lose this weekend to Iowa State?

Even if they win this weekend but let’s say lose next weekend to Oklahoma State, they won’t be in the championship game.

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The Napier stans on here just got erect

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You know who I would take Napier over? Your butt buddy Les Miles

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If Riley says no so late that we lose Aranda, would that be considered a huge fail?

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to me it's a huge fail if whoever they hire is not competing for an SEC championship in 3 to 4 yr. Don't care about how flashy the name, just the W's and L's. But that is just my opinion.

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Woodward would have slim pickings after that. Napier seems to be begging so hard for the job that I guess he's always a backup plan

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Why do you think there would be slim pickings?

You don’t think Urban Meyer would take the job if offered? Or do you think that hiring Meyer would be a failure?

Why do you assume Woodward would be forced to a lower tier if Riley says no and Aranda wasn’t available?

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So, when would you give up on your #1 to get your #2?

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This is the million dollar question. And if Scott Woodward is as savvy as his reputation says he is, he already has that answer. And now, we wait.

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Is Aranda currently trending up? Absolutely. Does he have the ability to sustain that level of success? That is yet to be seen.

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You're intellectually dishonest if you're saying that Aranda has no track record of sustained success. Again, you're trying to convince rather than learn. Then you will cherry pick and say, "Well yeah, but not as a head coach," yada yada yada. I would consider wasting more of my time responding if I thought you were actually interested in intelligent discouse.

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You don’t think Urban Meyer would take the job if offered?

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He's making $12m with the Jags. The only way he'd be interested in a move would be if he's figured out that the NFL is not for him, and I don't think he's given up yet.