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re: Got a wierd phone call earlier this evening

Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:45 am to
Posted by Don Corleone
The Don sees, hears, and knows ALL!
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:45 am to
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Was it with a lot of heavy breathing? I got one of those too.
but when i get one of those its not from a dude!
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16846 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:49 am to
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Watching the Cowboys at 11-1 has me stratching my head. Would Parcells be 11-1 this year?


No. The Cowboys are playing much looser this year, because Parcells isn't there.

It's the same thing with Saban. Sometimes guys are so worried about not screwing up that they play very tight. There needs to be a balance between walking on eggshells for a coach and letting the inmates run the asylum. I think we all know where Saban and Miles fit on that spectrum. Somewhere in between those 2 is exactly what we need.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
17050 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:51 am to
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Was it with a lot of heavy breathing? I got one of those too.


Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12744 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:52 am to
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I think he is an excellent builder, but not a sustainer.


I can't see where anyone gets any idea of what Saban could do with a program that is already established. He's never really had one. He's coached precisely one season with a program that was at or very close to the top, and that was the 2004 team. And that was a disappointing year but it was not like it was a disaster. And it was only one year. I don't think that is enough to say that he can sustain a program, but I also don' think it is enough to say he can't. I think it is an unknown.

But on the other hand, there are maybe two or three coaches in the country who have actually proven they have the ability to do better with a top flight program (Tressel, Bob Stoops . . . that's about it, now that Bowden has lost it; well, besides Miles, of course). Spurrier's teams fell off a bit after his National Championship season, too. Of course he did come back to have some very good seasons after that, but he never had another National Championship team, or even a team that played for one.

I would rather keep Miles than have Saban. But if Miles is not an option, Saban is probably not a bad second choice.

Posted by spanky
ihateflorida
Member since Aug 2005
149 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:54 am to
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Interesting....maybe Saban could mellow some..

Seems like Parcels was adored by his players....

Watching the Cowboys at 11-1 has me stratching my head. Would Parcells be 11-1 this year?


He could, it's possible. So far though, he has continued to preach even when things are going well, which wears thin.

I never said anything about Parcel's relationships with players. Everywhere Parcell's goes, he leaves, and then they keep winning (unless the next guy jacks it up). but he never stays.

I don't know anymore than you do if Parcell's would be 11-1, but we could both see how tired and frustrated he got last year. He had done his job, the team was ready to move on.

People on here keep saying 'get over it, Saban is awesome and you'll love him again once he's back'. What I say is why can't you people 'get over it', and maybe at least consider, just a bit (it won't kill you, i promise), that he did what he is best at (again, extremely well), that he's not what we need now.
Posted by spanky
ihateflorida
Member since Aug 2005
149 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 12:56 am to
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It's the same thing with Saban. Sometimes guys are so worried about not screwing up that they play very tight. There needs to be a balance between walking on eggshells for a coach and letting the inmates run the asylum.


Thank you for articulating what i'm thinking/feeling/trying to say...you put it into words very well.
Posted by spanky
ihateflorida
Member since Aug 2005
149 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 1:00 am to
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can't see where anyone gets any idea of what Saban could do with a program that is already established. He's never really had one. He's coached precisely one season with a program that was at or very close to the top, and that was the 2004 team.


That's a good point. My personal feeling, along with what i was hearing about the team and admin's feeling of Saban in '04, is where I draw my own hypothesis. It is an unknown. I personally just think we should go in a different direction. This is without considering the clusterfrick that is saban constantly changing jobs and him only being at bama for a year. Tack that stuff on and i'm really turned off.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5214 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 4:27 am to
You are a very insecure person Mr. Smartass(name fits perfectly)...give it a rest, sounds like you are jealous of Mr. Corleone.

Cheers Mr. Corleone, you spread interesting info be it true or not. Hope ole smartass doesn't pop a blood vessel
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82757 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 4:52 am to
Are you a citizen of Abu Dhabi?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175716 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 4:57 am to
Where the frick is that?
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82757 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 5:01 am to
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Where the frick is that?

Richest place in the world...citizens get paid just for being citizens, they import peasants to do all their scrub jobs(retail, fast food). Very interesting place.

ETA: Just looked some things up to refresh my memory...they have 420,000 citizens, each worth at least 17 million. Their "peasant" workers, or imported workers average about 62,000 a year.
This post was edited on 11/30/07 at 5:05 am
Posted by jaf 65
Houma, La
Member since Jan 2007
1870 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 5:28 am to
spanky

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But now we need a cool, collective guy at the helm that will maintain


Just like a Coach Miles.....THAT IS WHY HE HAS BEEN A SUCCESS!

I really don't want to lose Coach Miles but fully understand his motivation....But I do agree...we need someone that will CONTINUE to build with what is now!!! I just don't see Saban being that man.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
110106 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 5:35 am to
Why would he leave the NFL gig when has a team with promise?

if i am not mistaken .... jack del rio's wife is from here or has family in the area or something along those lines and has been trying to get a job here (this area NOT lsu) for some time now ...
Posted by NWLATigah
Member since Nov 2006
4535 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 5:55 am to
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Somewhere in between those 2 is exactly what we need.


I would settle for a coach that would not argue that we were still "undefeated in regulation". I swear the kids on my flag football team said the same thing after our season was over.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
23015 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 5:59 am to
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I believe saban could do that...retire at LSU a legend....
That's just it; Nick Saban is restless. What makes you think he'd retire from LSU if he came back. I think if ND or some big name came calling, he'd jump at another "big" dream chance and we'd be left holding the bag again.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
110106 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 6:00 am to
like the kinda coach that calls a timeout after an interception (no, i still havent let that go) and the kinda coach that doesnt know the instant replay rules or how many challenges he gets or the procedures regarding challenging a play last year in the sugar bowl ... lol yeah i agree ... i would like to see someone who has control but still knows how to have fun with the players .. i realize that is hard to find but .. would be nice i think
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
85483 posts
Posted on 11/30/07 at 6:32 am to
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it would take a gang of MIT scientists to judge the biggest hack on TD.com - but smartass has my vote!
Thanks for my new signature, Don!
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82757 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 12:34 pm to
frick you
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82757 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 12:34 pm to
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Dude you are so lame. All I have seen you do is bitch like a 3 yr old girl at anyone and evryone who posts anything on this board. Sound just like a fricking 3 yr old girl.

Go back to UGA douchebag.


frick you
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82757 posts
Posted on 12/1/07 at 12:35 pm to
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Thanks for my new signature, Don!

frick you
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