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re: For those hating on Brian Kelly's age, he is 10 years younger than Saban.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:47 pm to beauchristopher
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:47 pm to beauchristopher
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Would much prefer Kiffin over Kelly. Much better offenses
And Kiffin isn’t a dinosaur.
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:47 pm to Shuga4689
This hire would fookin suck, no one wants Kelly
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:47 pm to Macintosh
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He’s overrated and gets throttled every playoff
We talking about Lincoln Riley again?
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:48 pm to Shuga4689
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Stable guy with no drama? Kelly
Except that one time
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:48 pm to cas4t
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He has a top tier job now and has accomplished little
Every preseason: "The media is overrating Notre Dame again! They have no talent! Look at their recruiting rankings! They haven't been relevant for 30 years!"
Another 11 or 12 win season later: "They didn't play anyone! Notre Dame recruits itself! Anybody can win there!"
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:50 pm to SammyTiger
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ND is a premier program but so is Michigan, and Nebraska. None of them Have natural recruiting territories. ND relies on mid west Catholics.
ND certainly does not only recruit catholics (I know you were speaking in generalities, but they have the name recognition to recruit nationally)
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It is a little easier to recruit to the SEC and LSU.
Idk. There is much more competition. There is the Louisiana argument which does carry some weight. But it's not as if he's recruited poorly at ND.
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My biggest concern is age. He’s 60. Regardless of what Saban is doing this guy could be done in 5 years.
agree
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:53 pm to SammyTiger
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ND is a premier program but so is Michigan, and Nebraska. None of them Have natural recruiting territories. ND relies on mid west Catholics.
It is a little easier to recruit to the SEC and LSU.
ND is currently ranked #4 on 247 after finishing #9 last season. And that is at a school where he simply can't recruit certain guys because they would not qualify for admission to ND (even under lower standards than the general student population). Alabama doesn't have that issue. Clemson doesn't have that issue. Ohio St. doesn't have that issue. More importantly, LSU doesn't have that issue.
LSU's highest rated QB recruit in maybe decades took one official visit after committing to LSU. That was to South Bend, IN
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:53 pm to nvasil1
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Every preseason: "The media is overrating Notre Dame again! They have no talent! Look at their recruiting rankings! They haven't been relevant for 30 years!"
Another 11 or 12 win season later: "They didn't play anyone! Notre Dame recruits itself! Anybody can win there!"
both can be true
you can be overrated and win 11 games because you played no one
they are a punching bag when they make the playoff
Look he's not a bad coach. I just don't think he would do better at LSU than he's done at ND, particularly with a much harder schedule, and being 60 years old. The SEC grind is real.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:54 pm to Not Cooper
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So tired of hearing this. It happened in 2010. If he murdered that kid or was found grossly negligent he would be in prison.
no, he wouldn't you jackwagon, it's not necessarily a criminal offense and the family specifically decided NOT to pursue their civil remedy.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:54 pm to cas4t
fricking everyone outside of Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and us one year are a punching bag once the playoff starts.
He maximizes what he has at Notre Dame. If he can do the same at LSU he will breakthrough that barrier. This isn't that hard to think through.
He maximizes what he has at Notre Dame. If he can do the same at LSU he will breakthrough that barrier. This isn't that hard to think through.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 2:58 pm to TigerFan91
Kelly will be coaching after Saban retires.
He is very proven as a HC.
Yall really want Aranda who had a few good years as a DC and plays in a trash conference.
He is very proven as a HC.
Yall really want Aranda who had a few good years as a DC and plays in a trash conference.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:03 pm to TigerFan91
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He maximizes what he has at Notre Dame. If he can do the same at LSU he will breakthrough that barrier. This isn't that hard to think through.
got ya, so you're assuming that a 60 year old is going to come into the grinder that is the SEC west and manage to do significantly better than he has done at one of the premier programs in the history of college football
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:05 pm to Shuga4689
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Kelly will be coaching after Saban retires.
how do you know this?
You want to give a 60 year old an 8-10 year deal?
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He is very proven as a HC.
I agree he is a good coach. But we need someone better than good that will be here for the long haul.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:05 pm to Shuga4689
His offense is 20 years older than Saban's though.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:10 pm to cas4t
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Idk. There is much more competition. There is the Louisiana argument which does carry some weight. But it's not as if he's recruited poorly at ND.
He has to recruit nationally there is competition everywhere.
He isn’t relying on Indiana recruits.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:11 pm to cas4t
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Look he's not a bad coach. I just don't think he would do better at LSU than he's done at ND, particularly with a much harder schedule, and being 60 years old. The SEC grind is real.
Agree to disagree then. He has won big everywhere he has been, and he hasn't taken on particularly easy jobs.
He won national championships in D-II at Grand Valley State. It only took him 3 years to win the MAC at CMU, their first one since 1994. He made Cincy relevant, and got them to 2 BCS bowls. It only took him 3 years to get ND playing for a national title again, and is now the winningest coach in program history.
He's not the sexiest hire, but there aren't many better resumes available out there.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:13 pm to cas4t
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you can be overrated and win 11 games because you played no one
they are a punching bag when they make the playoff
I'm not going to argue that they have an SEC type schedule but they certainly don't have as cupcake of a schedule as people say. In the past few years they've done home and homes with Clemson and UGA. This year they went to Wisconsin and whipped their arse. UNC was ranked pretty damn high to start the season when they were on ND's schedule. Last year they went to the ACC championship game. USC is usually pretty respected and is a regular opponent. Michigan, Michigan st... its just not as awful as people say.
For the talk about them being a punching bag in the playoffs - they got rolled by Clemson who went on to roll Bama. They got rolled by bama who went on to roll Ohio St. The only thing I hold against them is 2012 when they didn't deserve to be in that game against bama.
But ND is not as weak as people tend to say. Hell he's 2-0 against LSU. They gave UGA everything they could handle at UGA a few years back.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:15 pm to nvasil1
I will concede that I think we could do much worse than Kelly with some of the other names being tossed around. There is no denying he is a good coach, as you pointed out. I just question his ability to make the leap this late in a career.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:17 pm to Beef Supreme
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Hell he's 2-0 against LSU.
I was at the Music City Bowl when Fournette ran back the opening kickoff.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:18 pm to cas4t
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I agree he is a good coach. But we need someone better than good that will be here for the long haul.
Kelly said this summer he feels good, and wants to coach as long as he's healthy enough to do so. Getting a successful decade out of him is not unrealistic.
If your definition of "long haul" is more like 20 years, then sure, he's probably not your guy. But there's no guarantee someone in their 40s would stay that long either.
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