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re: Firings about to commence in Dallas. Who's in play?

Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:03 am to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31636 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 8:03 am to
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Saban working under Jerry Jones? Genius.

See, this is why I thought the reports of Payton to Dallas last year were laughable
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:33 am to
Commence the flight tracking activities asap!

Where is JJs jet? I need info oeople!
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
114468 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:47 am to
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Saban to Cowboys



Short memories.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:56 am to
I would run naked down Dave Lyle Blvd in Rock frickinn hill,SC with only my grandpappy's western cowboy hat on if he were hired! Please save us Nick Saban!
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 9:58 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
108751 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 11:45 am to
Dallas should hire bill Obrien right now. He is a great coach with lots of pro experience. He is also a good leader and not an idiot like Jason garrett.

The second choice should be mike Zimmer but I don't think Zimmer would come back to work for that circus.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
12068 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:04 pm to
Why exactly are some of you saying that Miles is much more likely? If you are saying that Miles is not a control freak, then you must not know Miles very well. And why would Jones hire another coach that is known for time management issues? He might as well keep JG.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37680 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:07 pm to
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Miles would be a good fit in the NFL



I'm not sure I see that

He's wired a bit differently and seems to like his down time with his family. The jobs that I thought he might want were Michigan and/or Colorado (where he had a personal history)
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 12:25 pm to
It's a possibility for sure.
Posted by Punk2617
Monroe
Member since Jan 2012
249 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 1:02 pm to
I wouldn't work for Jerry Jones if I was Saban or any other big coach.
He would have to offer Saban 20 million/5 year firm to get him on the phone. Hell If I was Saban I'd still turn it down. The cowboys r a dumpster fire with Jones at GM.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:21 pm to
I can't think of an NFL team that would be a worse fit for Saban than the Cowboys. Maybe the Jets, but they at least have a solid defense. Cowboys have a meddling owner, outsized media attention. salary cap issues and middling talent.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
141001 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:26 pm to
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middling talent


Incorrect. They have a top flight RB, WR, LB, DL,and decent OL and DL as a group. Their DB's are horrendous though.

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meddling owner


Incorrect again. He doesnt meddle as much as you think. He gets interviewed and by name is the GM, but Stevie Boy is the GM in reality.

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outsized media attention


People love America's Team it sells.

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worse fit for Saban than the Cowboys


Any NFL team is a bad fit for Saban, he does not enjoy the NFL.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:31 pm to
Why would Saban want that job? No way he'd put up with Jerry.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7900 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:33 pm to
I'm trying to think of what the stat is, but the Cowboys are a .500 team since they last won a playoff game. You look up "middling" in the dictionary and you see a Cowboys helmet.

I do agree with you in that Saban doesn't enjoy the NFL. He's said that The Process doesn't really work in the NFL. I don't see any circumstance in which he goes back to the pros.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
108751 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 3:46 pm to
saban can't win in the NFL. do not want. you are not allowed to manipulate the scheduling in the NFL and cheat at player acquisition
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13650 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:35 pm to
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saban can't win in the NFL. do not want. you are not allowed to manipulate the scheduling in the NFL and cheat at player acquisition


His first season with the Dolphins begs to differ. 9-7 is a winning record, especially when you take a 4-12/last place in division team to 9-7 and 1 game out from winning the division.

Saban, much like Pete Carroll needed time to really understand what it would take as a HC in the NFL and know how best to turn things around.

I honestly think if he went back now, he'd be able to do significantly better. He got screwed in 2006 with the team's doctors nixing any chance at Brees and settling on Culpepper. His team had a horrible start in 2006 at 1-6 and then went 5-1 to get to 6-7 on the season until they blew their last 3 games after all the Bama drama started unfolding.

Teams have down years. Belichik was 36 and 44 at Cleveland with 1 winning season, and 1 playoff appearance. His record in his first 2 years was 13 and 19, which was worse than Saban's first two at Miami.

Heck Belichik even started 5-11 in his first year at NE before winning the Super Bowl the next year.

People really overblow Saban's "failure in the NFL".
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12809 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 4:36 pm to
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A Jones-Snyder bidding war over Saban can keep me entertained on this board for most of the next work week.



Ditto, but I can't see any way Snyder goes the college route again. He hired the best college coach of the 90s and it blew up in his face.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13650 posts
Posted on 12/16/13 at 5:14 pm to
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Ditto, but I can't see any way Snyder goes the college route again. He hired the best college coach of the 90s and it blew up in his face.


Difference there is that Spurrier was a guy that ran a college style of offense.

Saban, much like Harbaugh and Carroll, runs an NFL style offense and defense. No matter what people want to say, Saban isn't as awful a potential hire as many believe.
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