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Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 8:31 pm to
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Just would like someone to last at least two recruiting cycles


got damn thats asking a lot for any coordinator you hire. fact is since Les's background is offense we'll more than likely always have to go out and get a big name DC and they will continue to eventually leave for head jobs.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 8:31 pm to
Where is the smoke coming from SPF?
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

It is not uncommon for top DCs to move on / up. Sure, there are lots that stay for longer, but it is not uncommon that they move.
That's not the point...the point is that it is uncommon to hire a DC that decides to move on after one year, even two years, to become a head coach.

Like I said, if we can get at least two recruiting seasons out of him, I think that is a good thing.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

got damn thats asking a lot for any coordinator you hire.
What % of coordinators leave after one year?

This post was edited on 12/22/08 at 8:40 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 8:39 pm to
ah by cycles I though you meant 8+ years
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 8:56 pm to
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where from, you hearing something new?


quote:

in a few threads today that i was browsing
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

What % of coordinators leave after one year?


Where is the "one year" coming from?

He did not land a HC gig this season. Why are you assuming he is leaving after one year?

You make a SPECULATION and then make decisions / worries based upon that speculation?

I see no reason to assume he is one and done.
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:08 pm to
Is Steele even the DC at Bama? I think Kirby Smart makes the calls.
Posted by amiznit
Missouri City
Member since Apr 2005
1855 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:14 pm to
Turnover hasn't hurt OU's offense at all, Chicken. In the last few years they've gone from Leach to Mike Mangino to Chuck Long to Kevin Sumlin.

Even if Walker is here for only a year or two, it'd be a great thing.
Posted by supaman
ridgeland, ms
Member since Jul 2007
232 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

a complete fumble was your hiring of lane kiffen


agreed. kiffin is a lightweight. never in the history of the world has a man gotten so far so fast with so little.
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 10:01 pm to
it would be 3 or more seasons before walker went else wheres.. that is IF it's walker.

but he is definitly looking to be groomed to be a head coach.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

I'd say it is more like every 4-5 years...and that is after they enroll. Including the recruiting process, that is 5-6 years.

I am not sure what schools are on Walker's short list of where he would like to coach, but I am guessing he will be listening every year.

Just would like someone to last at least two recruiting seasons, because that seems like his strongest trait...


Walker is in line to take a smaller job as is.

If he comes to LSU, it's because he's trying to improve his stock to land a bigger job. That likely won't happen overnight. I think he'd be here at least 2 years barring an unbelievable performance.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

got damn thats asking a lot for any coordinator you hire. fact is since Les's background is offense we'll more than likely always have to go out and get a big name DC and they will continue to eventually leave for head jobs.


Chavis would stay...and he's a very good coordinator.
Posted by horndog
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Member since Apr 2007
12012 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

here's a lot of recent smoke about the walker/willis/orgeron trifecta being the choices

...i'm going to invest in kleenex stock in anticipation of this news


You're the new Dandydon.
This post was edited on 12/22/08 at 11:16 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61084 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

I'd say it is more like every 4-5 years...and that is after they enroll. Including the recruiting process, that is 5-6 years.

You can't count recruits because they are being recruited by multiple schools and not on campus. Most players will stay 4-5, but elite ones can and do leave after 3. Ideally, I'd like to keep this DC for 3 years, but if we loses him to a HC job, that speaks well of the program. As long as we remain competitive in assistant salaries , some highly qualified DC would be interested in coming here.
Posted by Dickaroo
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2007
406 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 11:32 pm to
Walker article from LA Times last week. Sounds like he'll be taking some time this week to think about his future options.
LINK
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 4:33 am to
imo this would be a grandslam to get all 3 here. also if we keep pulling in big name dc's and they leave for head coach spots it says alot about LSU. also when we need a new head coach we could go get one of our old coaches if the have done well as a head coach
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Walker said he will spend the next few weeks considering his options after learning Sunday that he did not get the head coaching spot at San Diego State


quote:

"Obviously, I'm still happy at UCLA," he said. "So you can't disregard that."


yeah, i'd say he's a gone pecan. if not LSU, it sounds like he's going somehwere

that last comment...wow
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 9:43 am to
john thompson:

3-20

at ECU.

no thanks.
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
12258 posts
Posted on 12/23/08 at 10:20 am to
quote:

J, do you really think rotating DC's really helps team chemistry and cohesiveness?


That formula has worked to the tune of 10 wins every year for Mack at Texas. I think that formula is exactly what LSU needs, considering the offensive minded HC we have. Keep bringing in top shelf DC's every two to three years. Could help us and not hurt us if you look at how our team lacked togetherness with two DC's that had been here for 4 years already. A change like this is refreshing for a program sometimes.
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