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Posted by MegaTiger
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:30 pm to
Walker is a good coach but this will be a terrible hire. He'll be gone in a minimum of 2 years and LSU will be right back in this situation.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:33 pm to
if he's gone in 2 years that means we had 2 damn good defenses that got him a job else where. Would you rather mediocre Ds so no one "steals" our coach?
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27746 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:36 pm to
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if he's gone in 2 years that means we had 2 damn good defenses that got him a job else where. Would you rather mediocre Ds so no one "steals" our coach?
J, do you really think rotating DC's really helps team chemistry and cohesiveness? Maybe the plan would be for O to step in as DC if Walker would leave. Not sure...but how hard will it be to sell a recruit on Walker being around to be their coach?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Skillet
quote:

won't matter who we get, unless les becomes a better coach.




I'm assuming everyone is just ignoring this?
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3110 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I don't here Steele's name coming up for new HC jobs like Walker. Walker is considered top shelf in the coaching circles..


Outside of the Pac-10 homers, I don't think I could fins any legit "coaching circle" that would take Walker over Steele.
Posted by maximusalexander
Member since Jun 2008
168 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:38 pm to
What thread can I find this gossip in?
This post was edited on 12/22/08 at 7:39 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Maybe the plan would be for O to step in as DC if Walker would leave


thats the scenario I've heard laid out several times.

Can you even guarantee he is gone in 2 years chicken? Many thought Pelini would be one and done. Instead he waited patiently for a job he really wanted. If walker makes the move here I'd imagine it will be to wait on the perfect job for him. That could open up in 2 years, maybe 4 who knows? Being scared to hire a big name because you're afraid of what may happen is silly.
Posted by MegaTiger
Member since Dec 2003
2224 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:40 pm to
you have a point but I hate seeing DC's shuffled in and out all the time when they're probably the most important position on the staff. I like Walker's style of D. I guess you do see more good DC's move around more than any other type of coordinator.

quote:

Would you rather mediocre Ds so no one "steals" our coach?


didn't NSU and New Mexico St. steal our coaches this year?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:40 pm to
why don't you go school yourself then dipshit. Walker is pretty widely respected and has coached with some excellent defensive minds. If you really think Steele has a better track record as a coordinator then I don't know what to tell you
Posted by MegaTiger
Member since Dec 2003
2224 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Can you even guarantee he is gone in 2 years


there's definitely not a guarantee but he's gonna apply for some jobs and there will be pressure for him to a get a job somewhere too.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61084 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:42 pm to
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do you really think rotating DC's really helps team chemistry and cohesiveness?


seeing as the players turnover every 3-5 years, I don't see this as a negative. If your DC gets hired away as a HC, that means he's doing a good job as your DC and means its an attractive job for the next ambitious DC that wants to be a HC.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:47 pm to
maybe thats the reason the contract has been sent back a time or 2. perhaps they are working on a guaranteed duration.

Like I said if he comes here I doubt he leaves for a non-BCS type job.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81671 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:48 pm to
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Outside of the Pac-10 homers, I don't think I could fins any legit "coaching circle" that would take Walker over Steele.


what coaching cirles highly regard Steele as a coordinator? You would think such a sharp tack under the great defensive mind Saban would be at the top of every list, why isn't he?

Also, i can't believe you haven't ruined this thread yet with your canned "Orgeron will get you put on probation" flame that you use every 3rd post. Way to restrain.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56632 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

I don't here Steele's name coming up for new HC jobs like Walker. Walker is considered top shelf in the coaching circles..


Where are you getting this?

Does Steele have NFL experience like Walker?

I don't know I am asking

Steele's resume looks better know because he has Saban on his resume. I am sure he is every good
Bottom line is this, he isn't available

We want Walker or Chavis
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:49 pm to
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J, do you really think rotating DC's really helps team chemistry and cohesiveness?


How long was Muschamp at Auburn? 2 years?

How long was Pelini at LSU? 3 years


It is not uncommon for top DCs to move on / up. Sure, there are lots that stay for longer, but it is not uncommon that they move.

I think it is more important to be able to tell recruits that LSU will get high quality DCs and defensive position coaches.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81671 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:51 pm to
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Does Steele have NFL experience like Walker?


yes, he got choked on the Carolina Panthers sidelines by Kevin Greene
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:52 pm to
the only time steele ran a D was as HC of Baylor and he was an epic fail there.

he was also once choked by kevin greene when he was LB coach for the panthers.

steele is a good position coach and very good recruiter. Saying he's more highly regarded than walker is asinine.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3110 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:55 pm to
quote:

why don't you go school yourself then dipshit. Walker is pretty widely respected and has coached with some excellent defensive minds. If you really think Steele has a better track record as a coordinator then I don't know what to tell you


Walker --> UCLA:

Total D:

2006 - 35th
2007 - 29th
2008 - 48th

Steele --> Alabama:

2006 - 18th (FSU LB Coach)
2007 - 31st
2008 - 3rd

If you super impressed by Walker's NFL Pedigree, don't forget Steele's time w/ the Panthers.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81671 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:56 pm to
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Steele --> Alabama:


great reply. kill yourself now

give us the bumpas --> tcu stats while you're bringing up puppet DC numbers
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 12/22/08 at 7:56 pm to
quote:

Total D:

2006 - 35th
2007 - 29th
2008 - 48th

Steele --> Alabama:

2006 - 18th (FSU LB Coach)
2007 - 31st
2008 - 3rd


Easily the laziest and dumbest way to judge a DC
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