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re: Chavis to UGA rumor from the dawgvent...

Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:37 pm to
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When considering a coaching job it comes down to location and pay; just like in any other profession. Coaches don't give a shite about ex-team's division or conference rivals.


Many things come into play with coaches when looking at moves. One coach I know, after one month his wife was ready to move. I know of one that had a Jimbo offer (HC in waiting), he passed. Another left a Pro job for college and handled his own buy-out. Each have their own reasons.

Money at times isn't the main selling point. You have to look overall, AD, Chancellor on down.
Posted by adil91
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:40 pm to
Yeah losing Greg Reid made me want to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:40 pm to
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You have to look overall, AD, Chancellor on down.


Very true, and I think that UGA stacks up quite well in that department compared to any other SEC school. Especially LSU, which we would be in direct competition with in this particular situation.
Posted by Acreboy
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:42 pm to
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ZeeDustin
where's that fig been?
Posted by LSUMafia
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:42 pm to
Dude, he is not a UT man as much as you want to believe it. Yes, he coached there for over 10 years. Yes, he's had connections there, but just because you played at a place and coached there does not mean you can't go anywhere else. Hell, he went to LSU and knew based on his contract, he'd face UT twice if he fulfilled it.

Secondly. Spurrier not played at UF, but won a Heisman there and then coached there for 10+ years only to come back to South Carolina. Why? Fricking golf courses were what sold him. I'd think Chavis' family is more important to him that UT.

His allegiance is as much to Fulmer as to UT anyhow, so unless Fulmer goes back there, I don't think it matters.

Muschamp was a UGA alum and coached at LSU and Auburn (a huge UGA rival). Fisher was an Auburn alum and coached at LSU which is a huge rival.

Notice anything there?

Family is the key, and he may take a slightly lower salary to go to UGA. To think UGA doesn't have the money LSU does would be stupid to say the least.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:43 pm to
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Very true, and I think that UGA stacks up quite well in that department compared to any other SEC school. Especially LSU, which we would be in direct competition with in this particular situation.




What makes UGA's situation there better than LSU's?
Posted by LSUMafia
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:47 pm to
I think UGA's advantage is its much closer to family, especially Athens. Period. Right now both schools' head coaches have seat warmers, and they might just spontaneously combust based on their teams' performances next year. If UGA is willing to offer 3 years at a little less annual salary than LSU for the 2 remaining years, the pull to be closer to family and have a little more guaranteed money may lure him away.

People really think that some of these guys only care about money? They've all pretty much made good money for years, I think family is the key for some of them moreso than $50-100K a year when they are making $400K + to begin with.

Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:51 pm to
Taking all things into consideration:

1) Athens is better than Baton Rouge
2) Richt is, at worse, equal to Miles as far as a boss
3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with
4) We can spend a lot more than LSU
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:51 pm to
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People really think that some of these guys only care about money?


Smart people, money falls to 3rd or less on the list....
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:53 pm to
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3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with
4) We can spend a lot more than LSU


Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:54 pm to
Any insight on UGA's recruiting class for 2010?

Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 3:58 pm to
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1) Athens is better than Baton Rouge


Yes. And given it's proximity to home, it's the only good reason Chavis would make a move.

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2) Richt is, at worse, equal to Miles as far as a boss


Richt is absolutely equal to Miles. I'm not a Miles fan and I wouldn't trade him for Richt.

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3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with


Incorrect. Louisiana produces the most NFL players per capita. And LSU has no instate rival to compete with for them.

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4) We can spend a lot more than LSU


I doubt it. All of the major programs spend a ton of money, and all of their fans think their respective progams can outspend everybody. You see the same thing said on every team's message board. Have you seen what LSU is paying its staff?
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 4:04 pm to
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3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with
4) We can spend a lot more than LSU

false
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 4:17 pm to
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Taking all things into consideration:

1) Athens is better than Baton Rouge
2) Richt is, at worse, equal to Miles as far as a boss
3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with
4) We can spend a lot more than LSU


1 may be correct
2 may be correct
3 isn't even close. Louisiana is a more talent rich state than Georgia and LSU has no competition for its in state recruits. In Georgia, you have Tennessee, Florida, Auburn, Bama, and Ga Tech to compete with
4 isn't even close to being accurate either. Who makes more? Miles or Richt? Miles. Our coordinators all make more than their UGA counterparts. So I'm not sure why you would have incorrectly assumed that UGA could pay more. It can't and it won't.
Let's face it. UGA isn't in LSU's league right now. They are closer to Auburn and Tennessee than LSU, Florida, or Bama. It will be very important for Richt to get a DC in there that is competent. He is going to need to turn it around next year. And you might be able to lure Chavis to Athens due to proximity, etc. But it definitely won't be because of talent or more money because those are strongly in LSU's favor.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 4:27 pm to
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4) We can spend a lot more than LSU


Mark Emmert changed this when he was at LSU. Mark is doing the same things at UW. Washington defensive coordinator Nick Holt received a $200,000 "one-time retention incentive," payable 30 days after he signed his contract. He also is scheduled to get a raise next season of $50,004, which would boost his guaranteed annual earnings to $650,004.

I know at one time, Georgia coaches got a retention bonus of up to $50,000 if they stay on staff for certain periods of time.

Posted by GABlueDog
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 4:46 pm to
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1) Athens is better than Baton Rouge
2) Richt is, at worse, equal to Miles as far as a boss
3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with
4) We can spend a lot more than LSU


1) I agree but this is really a matter of opinion to some.
2) Maybe right; both show loyalty and I hear both are great to work for; I think this is a wash
3) Massive fail
4) Massive fail
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 4:58 pm to
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3) MUCH more fertile recruiting grounds, ie, talent to work with




Are you retarded? Please go into further detail on this one.
Posted by Trojandawg
Carrollton
Member since Dec 2008
1787 posts
Posted on 12/24/09 at 4:59 pm to
Recruiting areas are about equal, but yes LSU does not have the instate competition that we do nor someone like UT that has always had strong recruiting ties to Georgia.

I dont know for a fact which school has the most money, but I do know that UGA is the 2nd or 3rd highest grossing athletic department and also has a lot of big time contributors. So I would imagine that UGA could get in a bidding war with anyone, but the problem is the damn UGA President is a tool.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 5:02 pm to




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STATE NFL Players POPULATION (millions)
1. Louisiana 80 4.5
2. Mississippi 42 2.8
3. S. Carolina 51 4.0
4. Alabama 53 4.4
5. Florida 176 16.0
6. Hawaii 13 1.2
7. Georgia 80 8.2
8. Texas 179 20.9
9. Maryland 43 5.3
10. Ohio 90 11.4


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This post was edited on 12/24/09 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/24/09 at 5:09 pm to
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To where?

Anywhere.
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