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re: Can we end the kiffin sucks narrative?

Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:04 am to
Kiffin can be a Head Coach somewhere else. Let him go to a Fresno and prove himself.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90305 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:06 am to
He is way too immature for a job like LSU
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:06 am to
quote:

You have cited nothing.


35-21 HC record

1 good year at USC

Regressed after that one good year.

You are making excuses as to why he is maybe not a terrible HC. Nothing has shown he is a good one.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90305 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:08 am to
Joseph Freshwater is not the face of a program with the stature of LSU
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
26541 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:09 am to
quote:

The nfl is a different beast


At USC they had massive scholarship limitations and a bowl ban and he never had a losing record and in fact was 10-2 one year.

At Tennessee he had the one year of excitement that program has had in nearly a decade until this year.
They had 4 straight losing season after him.


Can you hate him because of his previous attitude/cockiness sure. However the narrative of him being a failure as a head coach is blatantly false.

None of that changes the fact that Kiffin has never been a great head coach. You wouldn't have hired Kiffin after his USC run, so why now? It's not like McElwain and Smart didn't just get their asses handed to them, so why is Kiffin suddenly going to be great on his own?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38548 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:09 am to
They lost 30 scholarships. 30. Can you imagine our depth of we lost 30 scholarships?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38548 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

He is way too immature for a job like LSU



I wish we had a head coach that thought field goals are an embarrassing failure (his quote to Coker) for the past couple years
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
61038 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:14 am to
quote:

and his Pop's D carried him


No, Monte's defenses were horrendous.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69578 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:14 am to
Kiffin is unproven and at worst arguably been bad as a head coach.

LSU is good enough to get someone proven. We don't need to take chances.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:15 am to
Look man Kiffin will get another opportunity. He has done good under Saban. Emphasis "under Saban" for past 3 years. This isn't a time to be running an experiment to see if Kiffin is still an arse hat. There are a number of outstanding coaches we can hire.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:19 am to
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They lost 30 scholarships. 30. Can you imagine our depth of we lost 30 scholarships?


Ok but it seems like that didn't stop them from taking players

26 in 2010
29 in 2011
17 in 2012
26 in 2013

WHILE UNDER SANCTIONS they seemed to sing a full class every year but 2012.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30970 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:22 am to
quote:

He is way too immature for a job like LSU

Coach Freshwaher can bring offensive fire power to LSU which has been missing for years.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
3967 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:22 am to
Any team that fires Miles to hire Kiffin is at the top of the moronicness scale.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 11:23 am to
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The only reason Ed is being considered is because he has 8 games to prove himself.


Not really.

Just like the USC interim gig proved nothing.

Interim coaches take over a system already in place. They take over players and coaches already in place.

That's not "their" team at all. We know when Ed O gets control over a program he goes 3-21 in the SEC.



Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6764 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

No, Monte's defenses were horrendous.



Meh. Y'all were definitely trending upward defensively until Lane's final season in 2012. Finished 2011 strong.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21658 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:55 pm to
But can you trust him not to leave us high and dry like he did Tennessee? What if an NFL team comes knocking for him? Does he stiff us after 1 year?

I don't trust him
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63747 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 12:55 pm to
I don't think he sucks but I do think LSU can do better. I would like to see him succeed a mid level P5 program (a UNC perhaps if Fedora leaves) before wanting him at a major program
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173790 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:37 pm to
Kiffin does not suck as an OC/QB Coach/playcaller but he's not going to get gift wrapped a fricking job like LSU. Not sure how you people can't comprehend this.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38548 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:46 pm to
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he's not going to get gift wrapped a fricking job like LSU



Of course hes not the number 1 choice. However he has a FAR better track record than Coach O and some of the others mentioned.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86734 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

They lost 30 scholarships. 30. Can you imagine our depth of we lost 30 scholarships?


changes nothing how he managed that team

that team completely quit on him

he lost the locker room

he has failed everywhere at HC
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