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re: Anyone else notice a shift in the Napier talk
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:02 am to whitetiger1234
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:02 am to whitetiger1234
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The media no matter who it is will say what they need to say to keep their access.
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Scott has them all in his hands and he is the puppet master.
It's not really a conspiracy theory. I hope Woodward has the skill to control media outcomes with his words and actions. It's pretty important part of his job in terms of PR. I mean, people get college degrees on this subject matter and move on to be practicing subject matter experts in this area. It's a real thing. Not a conspiracy theory.
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:02 am to RobbBobb
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It the same posters that were on the original O bus, with a Few ULL posters thrown in. And it does appear to be a coordinated effort. So I wouldnt put it past Ponamsky to attempt to undermine Scott and get the least qualified candidate, hoping it blows up on Woodward, and makes him and Orgeron not look so bad
no it isnt dumbass.
look its real simple, most of us would rather Riley and atleast one other person(different opinions on this) but Napier is a better hire than kiffen and so many of yall want him. Napier has done better at kiffen when on similar levels. No denying that
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:04 am to 1984Tiger
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It’s who we are as a fanbase.
This may surprise you, but every fanbase has a vocal minority of lunatics who are never satisfied. The gumps were calling for Saban's head on Twitter after their 2019 loss to LSU and this year's loss to aTm. Imagine not being satisfied with Saban's body of work.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:20 am to RobbBobb
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Thanks for making my point
The fact that you chose my rant name to try to "prove your point" shows your lack of depth in this discussion. I've lived in GA, SC, TX, ID, AZ and of course LA but never on the bayou. I'm not a cowboy either.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:22 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Anyone else notice a shift in the Napier talk by Tiger Voodoo
Almost like it’s coordinated to lay the groundwork.
100% that’s why every sane person has to do their best to shut that shite down.
There are people literally advocating for him over Lincoln Riley and saying he should be our number 1 choice.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:23 am to lsu777
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Napier has done better at kiffen when on similar levels. No denying that
Kiffin won his conference twice. Napier “won” his conference after losing to the real champions in the regular season
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:28 am to lsu777
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but Napier is a better hire than kiffen a
I'm not so sure about that, an argument can be made either way but Kiffin does have more skins on the wall as an offensive mind than Napier.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:29 am to Adam Banks
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There are people literally advocating for him over Lincoln Riley and saying he should be our number 1 choice
Are they advocating Napier over Riley, or do they believe that Riley really isn't a realistic option?
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:30 am to BilJ
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Kiffin does have more skins on the wall as an offensive mind than Napier.
As a coordinator, 100%
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:33 am to boxcarbarney
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Are they advocating Napier over Riley, or do they believe that Riley really isn't a realistic option?
This...Riley would be my #1 if we can get him..if not then I would rather Napier over a James Franklin, who isnt a bad coach, just a solid one, dont think he can be GREAT. I would rather go for greatness, even though it may be a little riskier
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:34 am to Tiger Voodoo
Im not a ure the tip top candidates even interview anymore unless the agents allow. Most get disqualified for one reason or another before that point. I’d be good with BN
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:36 am to boxcarbarney
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Are they advocating Napier over Riley, or do they believe that Riley really isn't a realistic option?
If Riley is a viable option I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wouldn't think Riley was a grand slam.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:38 am to The Godfather
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I would rather Napier over a James Franklin, who isnt a bad coach, just a solid one, dont think he can be GREAT. I would rather go for greatness, even though it may be a little riskier
Your posts are reasonable on this.
So can I ask if you’d honestly feel the same about Napier if it wasn’t for the Saban connection?
Say everything was the same about his record at UL, but instead of those years as WR coach at Alabama he was at UT, or Florida or hell even Ohio State or Clemson.
Would Napier be on the list at all if it wasn’t for the idea that he’s the next Saban?
I ask this because I admit I fell victim to that with the Herman/Meyer connection back in 2016.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:40 am to BayouCowboy
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If Riley is a viable option I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wouldn't think Riley was a grand slam
Well yeah. I'm just wondering if what Adam Banks was saying has more to do with people already writing Riley off as a nonstarter is why Napier is being mentioned more than him.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:53 am to Tiger Voodoo
Put him at UAB and nobody here who wants him now would want him, but since he’s coaching at a rinkydink college in Louisiana, he’s the “best there is”.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:54 am to J2thaROC
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but since he coached at a rinkydink college in Louisiana, he’s the “best there is”.
I think very few want him solely because he coaches at ULL.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:56 am to StarSaint
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Just be thankful it's not Mel fricken Tucker anymore....
I'm expecting to hear Saban praising Tucker through the media as the search rolls on....
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:56 am to OceanMan
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Here is the thing: by laying off O when we did, we basically put out a job posting. Those that are interested will be letting Scott know, not the other way around
Agents are ALWAYS evaluating the market. It's their job. I promise you, Woodward received calls from agents after the UCLA game...if not well before. I would expect he has an idea of who may be REALLY interested and who may just be trying to use the job as leverage against their current school.
Case in point, Will Wade and his agent recognized early in the 2016-17 season the LSU job was likely going to become available at the end of the season (which it did). So at some point prior to Jones being officially let go at the end of the season Wade's agent reached out to LSU folks to express interest...if the LSU job became available. It's rarely a situation of the school firing the HC...then starting to evaluate the potential candidates. The AD (if he's worth a shite) knows who may be looking for a move and who may be someone he can get.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:58 am to Tiger Voodoo
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So can I ask if you’d honestly feel the same about Napier if it wasn’t for the Saban connection?
Me liking him has very little to do with him working for Saban. I mean, it doesnt hurt at all when the GOAT hires you multiple times, but its not why I like him.
I like that he is doing something at UL that has never been done before, they have never had this kind of consistent success.
I like that he is an offensive coach, I would rather have a HC who can keep our offense consistent and have a DC to keep defense good. We have had much more success with DC than OC
I like that he has turned down 3 SEC offers already. That shows me that he is confident in his abilities and that he knows what he is building in Lafayette isnt just a flash in the pan and he can afford to wait for the right opportunity and not just jump at the first big job that is offered before the bottom falls out.
He seems like he gets it as far as building and maintaining a program and he, by all accounts, is an excellent recruiter.
Could I be wrong on all of this and he doesnt work out if hired, sure, but you want to find the next great coach you arent going to find them by hiring someone who is already in Power 5 and arent already great. Unless its someone like an Aranda who hasnt been there long enough to really show what he has got. We know what someone like James Franklin is by now.
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Would Napier be on the list at all if it wasn’t for the idea that he’s the next Saban?
I dont think there is a next Saban
Posted on 10/21/21 at 10:00 am to J2thaROC
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Put him at UAB and nobody here who wants him now would want him, but since he’s coaching at a rinkydink college in Louisiana, he’s the “best there is”.
that's a stupid argument and not true.
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