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RemyLeBeau
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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What is the benefit?


I could be wrong, but, I thought if a team was short on coaches, the head coach was allowed to take the visits allocated to the vacant position. So if they don't replace Sullivan, it allows Orgeron to make additional visits instead of sending someone new to try to establish a relationship with a recruit they're trying to sign.


whitefoot
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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Announcements were said to be after early signing day...didn't happen.

Who said this?
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Announcements were said to be after bowl game...didn't happen.

Sullivan retired.
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What is the benefit?

Recruiting for one. It's beneficial for recruiting to not have a full staff. A waiver can be obtained for a non-field coach to travel to visit recruits and the HC can get more in home visits.


bstew3006
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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Who said this?


TBL and others who have proven to have "sauces"


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Sullivan retired


Thanks, I posted this in the OP.

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It's beneficial for recruiting to not have a full staff. A waiver can be obtained for a non-field coach to travel to visit recruits and the HC can get more in home visits.


This is the play LSU/CEO is making? Says who?


BayouCowboy
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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This is the play LSU/CEO is making? Says who?

I do know VolTiger made a reference to a candidate being able to essentially "shadow recruit" since he's not officially announced on staff yet. At the time there was a lot of smoke for Tee coming to LSU.

It may have been a hypothetical statement, but it was a little cryptic.


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whitefoot
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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TBL and others who have proven to have "sauces"

I must have missed them saying there would be announcements after ESD but before the bowl game.

I know you said about Sullivan in your OP, but I'm not sure why that's not a big enough announcement for you. It's basically the one everyone expected.

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This is the play LSU/CEO is making? Says who?

This is what they did last year after Jenkins retired, so I'm just assuming they'll do the same this year. I don't think it was a coincidence that Bill Busch was announced the day after NSD last year. It's advantageous because you get the advantages of not having a full staff plus the incoming guy(s) can still work behind the scenes without repercussion since they're not actually employed yet.


bstew3006
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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I know you said about Sullivan in your OP


but you brought it up again

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but I'm not sure why that's not a big enough announcement for you


I didn't say it was one way or the other

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It's basically the one everyone expected.


exactly! Also why I said not to expect much after Sullivan.


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RemyLeBeau
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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This is what they did last year after Jenkins retired, so I'm just assuming they'll do the same this year. I don't think it was a coincidence that Bill Busch was announced the day after NSD last year. It's advantageous because you get the advantages of not having a full staff plus the incoming guy(s) can still work behind the scenes without repercussion since they're not actually employed yet.


Pretty sure Miles did this as well when he had a vacant coaching position after bowl games ended and leading up to NSD


rstamp1
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
I’m pretty sure that rule changed. Austin Thomas was recruiting for Pete Jenkins and John Decoster was on the road for Sullivan so nothing has really changed.


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Adajax
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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You have no idea if this is true. You read it on the Rant, so you believe it,


Thank you.


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BayouBengals18
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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I could be wrong, but, I thought if a team was short on coaches, the head coach was allowed to take the visits allocated to the vacant position. So if they don't replace Sullivan, it allows Orgeron to make additional visits instead of sending someone new to try to establish a relationship with a recruit they're trying to sign.


Les used to do this all the time. It’s why schools don’t “officially” hire coaches until after NSD. It’s very beneficial for recruiting.


deuce985
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
How about we get rid of Joseph and just get a coach who can actually coach/recruit instead of forcing LSU to have him needing a babysitter because he sucks coaching?


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MOT
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
Sullivan wasn’t designated as one of our off campus recruiters anyway, we already had a waiver for a grad assistant to take his place on the road. Our staff is still full as far as recruiting is concerned.


ssburas2005
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
How about former usc oc john morton who recruited for usc and called plays from 2009-2010. He is a big time coach and he would b a big time hire


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Hangit
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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He’s been a QB coach/OC for the majority of his career.


I believe you are mistaken. He has a 36 year coaching career. He was an OC/QB coach for 15 of those years. The last time, before being forced in at LSU, was in 2008 at Auburn.


BayouCowboy
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
I wonder if we could make a run at Craig Kuligowski the Bama DL coach.

Craig Kuligowski

I imagine he might be looking for a bigger gig though like DC or NFL position coach.



ProjectP2294
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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I wonder if we could make a run at Craig Kuligowski the Bama DL coach.


The guy that leaked the Mizzou playbook because he was beefing with the DC? No thank you.


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Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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I believe you are mistaken. He has a 36 year coaching career. He was an OC/QB coach for 15 of those years. The last time, before being forced in at LSU, was in 2008 at Auburn.



By my calculations, he has been a OC, QB coach or passing game coordinator for 19 of his coaching years, including at LSU. This does not include his time as a high school head coach, or as a player.

Regardless if it's 15 or 19, the point still stands. He has spent a large portion of his career coaching quarterbacks.

So, I have no issue with someone saying they would like LSU to hire a DIFFERENT quarterback coach. But to say that LSU does not have a quarterback coach is not accurate. To characterize Ensminger as a career tight end coach is also not accurate.

Bash coaches all you want. I don't care. But let's be accurate.


ssburas2005
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
Lsu needs coach john morton who has been usc's oc, qb,and wr coach all the way to being the Jets oc and qb coach and the saints for three yrs there wr coach and he's been with the saints wr's twice and than went to jets as oc and was outstanding he's top dog and big hire


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Hangit
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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Bash coaches all you want. I don't care. But let's be accurate

I am not bashing anybody. I don't believe SE is the OC we need but he is a good coach, recruiter, and a good guy.


You had said "He’s been a QB coach/OC for the majority of his career." I know he wasn't, and said so. You then came back and added Passing game coordinator, high school coach, and when he played QB. Your additions make you correct.

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To characterize Ensminger as a career tight end coach is also not accurate.



I don't believe anybody thinks he is a career TE coach. I didn't say that, nor did I read anybody else saying it.

I believe everything to now be accurate, as per your request.



Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?
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high school coach, and when he played QB.


I did not include this in my calculations.


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