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re: Any legit news on potential LSU staff changes?

Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:54 pm to
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What is the benefit?


I could be wrong, but, I thought if a team was short on coaches, the head coach was allowed to take the visits allocated to the vacant position. So if they don't replace Sullivan, it allows Orgeron to make additional visits instead of sending someone new to try to establish a relationship with a recruit they're trying to sign.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Announcements were said to be after early signing day...didn't happen.

Who said this?
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Announcements were said to be after bowl game...didn't happen.

Sullivan retired.
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What is the benefit?

Recruiting for one. It's beneficial for recruiting to not have a full staff. A waiver can be obtained for a non-field coach to travel to visit recruits and the HC can get more in home visits.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:23 pm to
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Who said this?


TBL and others who have proven to have "sauces"


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Sullivan retired


Thanks, I posted this in the OP.

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It's beneficial for recruiting to not have a full staff. A waiver can be obtained for a non-field coach to travel to visit recruits and the HC can get more in home visits.


This is the play LSU/CEO is making? Says who?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14391 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:33 pm to
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This is the play LSU/CEO is making? Says who?

I do know VolTiger made a reference to a candidate being able to essentially "shadow recruit" since he's not officially announced on staff yet. At the time there was a lot of smoke for Tee coming to LSU.

It may have been a hypothetical statement, but it was a little cryptic.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:36 pm to
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TBL and others who have proven to have "sauces"

I must have missed them saying there would be announcements after ESD but before the bowl game.

I know you said about Sullivan in your OP, but I'm not sure why that's not a big enough announcement for you. It's basically the one everyone expected.

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This is the play LSU/CEO is making? Says who?

This is what they did last year after Jenkins retired, so I'm just assuming they'll do the same this year. I don't think it was a coincidence that Bill Busch was announced the day after NSD last year. It's advantageous because you get the advantages of not having a full staff plus the incoming guy(s) can still work behind the scenes without repercussion since they're not actually employed yet.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:44 pm to
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I know you said about Sullivan in your OP


but you brought it up again

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but I'm not sure why that's not a big enough announcement for you


I didn't say it was one way or the other

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It's basically the one everyone expected.


exactly! Also why I said not to expect much after Sullivan.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1794 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:49 pm to
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This is what they did last year after Jenkins retired, so I'm just assuming they'll do the same this year. I don't think it was a coincidence that Bill Busch was announced the day after NSD last year. It's advantageous because you get the advantages of not having a full staff plus the incoming guy(s) can still work behind the scenes without repercussion since they're not actually employed yet.


Pretty sure Miles did this as well when he had a vacant coaching position after bowl games ended and leading up to NSD
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1121 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 3:03 pm to
I’m pretty sure that rule changed. Austin Thomas was recruiting for Pete Jenkins and John Decoster was on the road for Sullivan so nothing has really changed.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6109 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 4:04 pm to
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You have no idea if this is true. You read it on the Rant, so you believe it,


Thank you.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 6:55 pm to
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I could be wrong, but, I thought if a team was short on coaches, the head coach was allowed to take the visits allocated to the vacant position. So if they don't replace Sullivan, it allows Orgeron to make additional visits instead of sending someone new to try to establish a relationship with a recruit they're trying to sign.


Les used to do this all the time. It’s why schools don’t “officially” hire coaches until after NSD. It’s very beneficial for recruiting.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:16 pm to
How about we get rid of Joseph and just get a coach who can actually coach/recruit instead of forcing LSU to have him needing a babysitter because he sucks coaching?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27766 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:03 am to
Sullivan wasn’t designated as one of our off campus recruiters anyway, we already had a waiver for a grad assistant to take his place on the road. Our staff is still full as far as recruiting is concerned.
Posted by ssburas2005
Member since Feb 2016
327 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:34 am to
How about former usc oc john morton who recruited for usc and called plays from 2009-2010. He is a big time coach and he would b a big time hire
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39027 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:59 am to
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He’s been a QB coach/OC for the majority of his career.


I believe you are mistaken. He has a 36 year coaching career. He was an OC/QB coach for 15 of those years. The last time, before being forced in at LSU, was in 2008 at Auburn.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14391 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 7:37 am to
I wonder if we could make a run at Craig Kuligowski the Bama DL coach.

Craig Kuligowski

I imagine he might be looking for a bigger gig though like DC or NFL position coach.

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70079 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 9:27 am to
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I wonder if we could make a run at Craig Kuligowski the Bama DL coach.


The guy that leaked the Mizzou playbook because he was beefing with the DC? No thank you.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26639 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:23 am to
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I believe you are mistaken. He has a 36 year coaching career. He was an OC/QB coach for 15 of those years. The last time, before being forced in at LSU, was in 2008 at Auburn.



By my calculations, he has been a OC, QB coach or passing game coordinator for 19 of his coaching years, including at LSU. This does not include his time as a high school head coach, or as a player.

Regardless if it's 15 or 19, the point still stands. He has spent a large portion of his career coaching quarterbacks.

So, I have no issue with someone saying they would like LSU to hire a DIFFERENT quarterback coach. But to say that LSU does not have a quarterback coach is not accurate. To characterize Ensminger as a career tight end coach is also not accurate.

Bash coaches all you want. I don't care. But let's be accurate.
Posted by ssburas2005
Member since Feb 2016
327 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:57 am to
Lsu needs coach john morton who has been usc's oc, qb,and wr coach all the way to being the Jets oc and qb coach and the saints for three yrs there wr coach and he's been with the saints wr's twice and than went to jets as oc and was outstanding he's top dog and big hire
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39027 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:22 pm to
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Bash coaches all you want. I don't care. But let's be accurate

I am not bashing anybody. I don't believe SE is the OC we need but he is a good coach, recruiter, and a good guy.


You had said "He’s been a QB coach/OC for the majority of his career." I know he wasn't, and said so. You then came back and added Passing game coordinator, high school coach, and when he played QB. Your additions make you correct.

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To characterize Ensminger as a career tight end coach is also not accurate.



I don't believe anybody thinks he is a career TE coach. I didn't say that, nor did I read anybody else saying it.

I believe everything to now be accurate, as per your request.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26639 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 12:51 pm to
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high school coach, and when he played QB.


I did not include this in my calculations.
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