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re: Any coach who requires good assistants to be good

Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:35 pm to
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Well, part of being a good coach (or administrator in general) is the ability to recognize capability in others. Do you think Orgeron would be able to consistently do that? His history doesn't lead me to believe it.


Hey, I agree with you...I don't think O is the guy. I just disagree that a great coach doesn't require good assistants.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:35 pm to
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Any coach who requires good assistants to be good
Is not a good coach. Good coaches have assistants who come and go.


Only someone who is dumb would hire less than the best assistants available especially when you have the resources to do so. I guess Saban is not a good coach since he wanted O and hired Kiffin, and recently hired Pruitt when Smart left. When you run an enterprise, you need good people around you for it to succeed unless you're the type of person who likes to do everything yourself. I don't even have to explain what the outcome of that will be for those who already know.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22676 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:35 pm to
This is a dumb premise. Good bosses know how to hire good help, it's part of the job, regardless of how often they need to do it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:45 pm to
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Only someone who is dumb would hire less than the best assistants
No one is saying otherwise, but a good coach will still win with good assistants, and excels with "the best" ones.

A bad coach REQUIRES "the best" assistants to succeed, and is mediocre to bad without them.
Posted by lotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
387 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:51 pm to
If HC don't need good assistants then why everybody want Aranda to stay and think we need to get rid of Grimes and BDP?
Posted by LC412000
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 2:55 pm to
I agree. Look at Coach Saban, he stinks. Has what - 3 or 4 former head coaches on his staff
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10849 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:19 pm to
You obviously have no idea how any successful large entity is run whether it be a company, a government, the military or a football team do you?
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:23 pm to
Agreed. But I'm almost to the point of saying give in to the dilusional rantards and hire O. The excuses they would unleash when he finishes what Miles started would be entertaining and worth it.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:25 pm to
I don't know what's worse. The original post or the guy who said exactly.
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:28 pm to
You're only as good as your weakest link
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:28 pm to
I like O as a recruiter and motivator, but he would be an "average" head coach. LSU has already been down that road.

Elite college coaches are gifted offensive or defensive "specialists". LSU must make this type of hire. I personally do not want to settle for average.
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
4068 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:28 pm to
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Name some good coaches without good assistants


Jimbos D is crushing it without Pruitt
name 1 coach in history nfl or college that was an offense & defense guru
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:31 pm to
That statement is totally wrong.
Posted by Ironhead985
Member since Jun 2013
9783 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:35 pm to
I want to slap Derek Ponamsky in face with a brick.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7716 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:44 pm to
So saban doesn't know what he's doing? Where does some of this stupidity come from
Posted by Gris Gris
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Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:46 pm to
Oh my. So much dumb in your statement. It's incredible.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10849 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:47 pm to
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name 1 coach in history nfl or college that was an offense & defense guru


Don Shula was a RB in college and a DB in the NFL. He was a defensive coordinator for 3 years before becoming a head coach. But Shula was always more involved in the offense in Miami and a master of building the offense around the weapons he had. He went from having a dominant run game in the 70's to the most prolific passing offense in the NFL in the mid 80's. He won a few games along the way too.
Posted by java
Member since Jan 2004
176 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:47 pm to
OMG, what an idiot statement - Obviously you dont hire and manage an organization
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:50 pm to
Every coach requires good assistants to be good.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10496 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 3:59 pm to
Exactly. Good assistants employ what the Head Coach wants. Not dictate. Yes, they call plays, etc but only after the Head Coach approves them.
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