re: Aggies: Which Texas hire would scare you most?

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Even Saban to Texass wasn't scary.

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lulz

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With that said though, they couldn't hire a better coach.

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I concur.

Briles is perfect for Texas.

Vast majority of kids DGAF about the easiest path the title.

They want to be in the biggest and baddest conference around.

They want to be seen on TV and play schools people care about.

That ain't gonna happen in the Big 12 as presently constructed.

So long as A&M is in the SEC and Texas is in the Big 12 there is very little to worry about. Simply being in the SEC is enough to win a ton of recruiting battles.

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Simply being in the SEC is enough to win a ton of recruiting battles.

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I think time will tell on that one and the answer will be no it is not.

A&M justifiably has some buzz right now because of their first year in the SEC and they look good in comparison to Texas with Mack fading of late. But Texas is still teh #1 program in the state and a legit coaching hire brings a lot of kids back into the fold.

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no hire at Texas is scary as log as they are trapped in the Big 12.


Disagree.

An undefeated Big 12 team is in the four team playoff next year.

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If that team is Texas or Oklahoma, that is a definite fact. Toss in the fact that with Nebraska and A&M (and yes, Mizzou and Colorado) having left, and you have a significant loss of "traditional" competition for the top spot; Nebraska and Colorado had won national titles within the past 2 decades or so, A&M has always been capable of a top 10 finish, and Mizzou this past decade has been on the verge of becoming a serious national contender. The teams they replaced them with just don't carry the same weight.

People are forgetting this in the disaster of the last week- Texas is still positioned to become a perennial contender, if they can get past Oklahoma. That's a lot easier than being in the SEC. It's the reason Urban Meyer will stay at Ohio St, and if Texas plays their cards right, they can become elite in a hurry.

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Using that logic, it seems unfathomable that Florida State could beat Florida the way they did this year.

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uhh no

you seem to think I am saying that A&M will always be able to beat Texas at everything now.

That isn't what I am saying at all.

I am saying there is zero reason to fear a good hire at Texas. So what if they may occasionally be better? They are now the 5th best conference. That will hurt their recruiting regardless of who coaches there.

They also refuse to play us so they can't ever point to beating us down as a reason they are a better school to go to.

Again, kids will see that the SEC puts by far the most players into the NFL and many kids that normally would have gone to Texas and OU will pick A&M b/c of it.

The only school that really has anything to fear from a good hire at Texas is OU.


Also, Jimbo Fisher isn't the reason Florida is having problems.

No matter who is the head bus driver in Austin, they still cannot take more than 25 or so recruits a year. We will be fine as long as we take care of what we can take care of.

And Mack BS Brown actively tried to convince JFF to leave the state to play QB. He is nothing but a snake oil salesman who only cares about his own image.

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Sumlin will be taking the first bus out of Cult Station before a cat can lick its arse

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before a cat can lick its arse

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No matter who is the head bus driver in Austin, they still cannot take more than 25 or so recruits a year. We will be fine as long as we take care of what we can take care of.

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Point well taken.

By the same token, with the right coach Texas should have no trouble limiting out on top talent.

Highway 6 runs both ways, so I've heard.

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no hire at Texas is scary as log as they are trapped in the Big 12.



Disagree.

An undefeated Big 12 team is in the four team playoff next year. A one loss SEC team may be in, may not be. A&M now plays in the most competitive division and conference in the country as evidenced by the last seven national championship appearances.

If the next coach at Texas runs off consecutive seasons of 1 or zero losses and A&M continues to lose 3 to 4 conference games, they have a lot to be scared of with the new playoff format.

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See this is where you guys get lost.

Simply because Texas is in the B12 and they hire whomever doesn't mean they will magically start rolling off undefeated seasons and go to the Playoff. In fact the odds are against it, the B12 is several notches below the SEC for sure but it has a lot of games that are easy to lose every year. It's a round robin/9 game schedule against a lot of tough little teams that nobody cares about. For instance, flying halfway across the country to play in Morgantown sucks. Going up to Manhattan Kansas to play against a bunch of JUCO guys and a crafty old Bill Snyder sucks. All it takes is dropping one of those games and the season is shot.

There are many reasons the B12 and the LHN hurts Texas though, a lot of it is exposure. The LHN money is a joke, you are talking about less than $10 million they actually get for an AD that makes over $150 million. It doesn't change anything about what Texas does. What it does do though is it takes 2 or 3 games and puts them on a network no one sees. It puts all the coaches shows there too. Did you not see the stat that going into the last game only 14 million people had seen a Texas game while over 52 million had seen an A&M game? Even if you take out JFF and Texas improves that's a Grand Canyon sized gap to make up that is almost impossible playing games on the LHN and Fox Sports1.

The other half of the equation is the assumption that A&M is going to only get worse because JFF is gone. The problem with that is it ignores the major uptick in A&M's recruiting. Our defensive classes prior to 2013 that took the field had about 3 combined 4 Star players on them, from 2013 on almost all of them are 4 Stars or above. The offense has also upticked in a big way. A&M has gotten it done by hitting home runs with some 3 Stars like Manziel and Evans up to now, going forward that won't be the same.

It's also ridiculous to talk about the past (esp the '00s). Virtually everything has changed. A&M is now bigger than Texas. We have better facilities and soon to be a far better stadium. We always had a better gameday atmosphere. The money difference between the school is now negligible. Our exposure level is far superior and we play huge games in the dominant conference in the country.

Of course if Texas starts going undefeated every year while A&M sucks they will do better in recruiting than we will. That's not a news flash. The question to consider though is what if both teams are doing well (which is most likely) or if A&M wins while Texas struggles? Texas has no defense against an A&M team that is successful in the SEC, we will crush them in recruiting in that case. We are crushing them right now and we are the 4th best team in the West this season and lost all of our big games, what do you think happens when we break through?