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Hugh McElroy
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re: Blake Baker Staying at LSU to Coach with Kiffin
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/5/25 at 10:37 pm to BeeFense5
Big win for aggy. :cheers:
38 in 2024
49 in 2025
38 in 2024
49 in 2025
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Caleb Downs: "SEC, you play dudes each week; Big 10, you play 4-5 hard games each year"
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/5/25 at 12:20 pm
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If tweet fails to load, click here. But Ohio State and Indiana and Oregon and Tech are all seeded higher than all but one SEC team.
This is a problem for the SEC...
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/5/25 at 8:28 am
That the committee has Tech as high as they do, and that they have Ole Miss and A&M below one loss teams from the Big 12, indicates a playoff problem for the SEC going forward.
The poor reasoning equates a win, like, say, Vandy's win over 4-4 UT with Tech's win over, say, 5-4 Cinncinati. The bottom of the SEC is discounted more than they should be relative to the top of the Big 12. Truth is, 4-4 UT would probably have won the Big 12, maybe finishing second at worst. 1-7 State beat 6-3 Arizona State. But the Committee isn't accounting for that properly. There SOS is an antiquated system that looks only at the record of your opponents, and the record of the record of your opponents, without looking at data that relativizes the strength of clusters of common opponents.
It's hurting A&M and Ole Miss this year, but it could cost your team next year.
The poor reasoning equates a win, like, say, Vandy's win over 4-4 UT with Tech's win over, say, 5-4 Cinncinati. The bottom of the SEC is discounted more than they should be relative to the top of the Big 12. Truth is, 4-4 UT would probably have won the Big 12, maybe finishing second at worst. 1-7 State beat 6-3 Arizona State. But the Committee isn't accounting for that properly. There SOS is an antiquated system that looks only at the record of your opponents, and the record of the record of your opponents, without looking at data that relativizes the strength of clusters of common opponents.
It's hurting A&M and Ole Miss this year, but it could cost your team next year.
re: Ags, what were your thoughts on Elijah Robinson when he was there?
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/5/25 at 6:53 am to geauxcoco
He’d be a great hire, and I’m sure he’d jump at the chance.
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 10:37 am to Nutriaitch
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A&M's loss came when fully healthy
Except, you know, our best running back.
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 8:21 am to Hugh McElroy
So, for example, Arizona State is 6-3 in conference, and Mississippi Stare is 0-8 in conference.
But Aggy never beat a team with a winning record in conference!
Okay, but the SEC is better than everybody else. Mississippi State beat Arizona State!
But Aggy never beat a team with a winning record in conference!
Okay, but the SEC is better than everybody else. Mississippi State beat Arizona State!
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 8:18 am to Floki
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I’m ok with Ole Miss being in front of us but both Ole Miss and A&M should be in front of Tech and Oregon.
Yep. A&M vs Ole Miss is so close, there is no reason to complain one way or the other, But we should clearly be ahead of Tech and Oregon.
I think the way they get there is by overvaluing the in-conference records, without regard to the strength of those records.
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 8:16 am to Toroballistic
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You have a better win than UGA over Ole Miss? Who?
You have a better loss than UGA to Bama? Really? You lost to #13, UGA lost to #9.
No, that's why I said most one loss teams. Ole Miss loss is better than A&M's loss.
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 7:19 am to SquatchDawg
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If the goal is to get in the playoffs then why does it matter if you’re clearly not on the bubble?
Because the first round matchup for the 7 seed is significantly harder than the first round matchup for the 6 seed.
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 7:16 am to BFANLC
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What exactly did he want, to lose and move up?
What a stupid question. Of course not.
He wants someone to explain why we’re the lowest ranked one loss team when we have a higher SOS than the other one loss teams, and a better win, and a less bad loss, than almost all the other one loss teams. (Not including BYU).
re: This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 7:12 am to Hugh McElroy
“It’s amazing how many people say that we have played a poor schedule when we have the 15th ranked SOS in the country and the 3rd ranked SOR in the country.”
This is how you want a coach responding to bullshite committee rankings
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 7:04 am
re: If you had to pick 2 states to recruit from only
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/4/25 at 6:16 am to finchmeister08
Arkansas and New Mexico.
re: Vanderbilt is getting shafted.
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/3/25 at 6:11 pm to 3down10
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quote: FSU beat Bama Arizona State beat Tech Texas beat A&M
Exactly. Glad you agree your reasoning about why Vandy shouldn’t be in is stupid.
re: Vanderbilt is getting shafted.
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/3/25 at 6:07 pm to 3down10
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Texas beat Vandy.
FSU beat Bama
Arizona State beat Tech
re: Ags at 7 is total bullshite
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/3/25 at 1:01 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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the more recent the loss, the more they hold it against you.
I'm fine with that, all things being equal. But all things aren't equal. Tech lost to Arizona State, and their best win is BYU. They have a worse SOS, a less impressive best win, and their loss is worse. It makes no sense at all for them to be 4. It just doesn't.
re: Ags at 7 is total bullshite
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/3/25 at 12:59 pm to Daowna
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7 was very predictable coming out of the weekend.
If you're kicking dirt over it then I question your knowledge of how rankings work. And it's certainly not bullshite.
Such bullshite.
Lots of people "close to the process" were saying A&M was 5 or 6, which I believed, despite thinking A&M should be the highest ranked one loss team (again, see the graph in the OP; the data is right there.)
re: Not SEC-related, but interesting nonetheless
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/3/25 at 12:48 pm to RebelTheBear
I wonder how many coaches have told them no at the point. I know Elko, DeBoer, and Sitake have all said no.
re: Ags at 7 is total bullshite
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/2/25 at 6:19 pm to HTX Horn
There’s a big fricking difference between 6 and 7 this year.
re: Ags at 7 is total bullshite
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/2/25 at 6:18 pm to EKG
It’s not right. It pisses off so much. It’s just total bullshite.
Well, we’ll just beat ND or Alabama at Kyle rather than Virginia.
But it’s total bullshite.
Well, we’ll just beat ND or Alabama at Kyle rather than Virginia.
But it’s total bullshite.
Ags at 7 is total bullshite
Posted by Hugh McElroy on 12/2/25 at 6:11 pm
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