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Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:52 pm to Babble
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They’re making these “changes” because, quite frankly, EotW was not written in a manner that lends itselt well to adaptation. To be honest, it is the most poorly written book in the entire series.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 9:07 pm to Cockopotamus
This episode was a mixed bag for me. The tinker's parts are just awful and since they aged up the EF5, Egwene's relationship with Aram just won't exist.
Alvaro Morte is a great actor and he plays Logain so well. We all knew they were expanded his role, and this episode is how they're going to get around ignoring Camelyn. Lots of great showings of the one power in the battle scene. Lots of practical effects which were nice (I expected a lot more fireballs and lighting bolts). I do think the end of the episode with Nyneave healing in the way did kinda undermines the power of other Aes Sedai and how much growth was needed for her to really get to where she is at the end of the series. The block was shown well though. Also did Logain see her weaves? His line makes no sense otherwise.
That said, Thom fighting the Fade in the show manner was pretty anti-climatic. I was hoping for more Thom/Mat/Rand minutes and I guess that won't happen now? I do think the misdirection towards Mat/Owyn story was done super well.
This episode was pretty solid overall imo. The pacing of this episode was so different from the previous ones. I think they felt like they could do it at a more measured pace because so much of what they did was not in the books.
Alvaro Morte is a great actor and he plays Logain so well. We all knew they were expanded his role, and this episode is how they're going to get around ignoring Camelyn. Lots of great showings of the one power in the battle scene. Lots of practical effects which were nice (I expected a lot more fireballs and lighting bolts). I do think the end of the episode with Nyneave healing in the way did kinda undermines the power of other Aes Sedai and how much growth was needed for her to really get to where she is at the end of the series. The block was shown well though. Also did Logain see her weaves? His line makes no sense otherwise.
That said, Thom fighting the Fade in the show manner was pretty anti-climatic. I was hoping for more Thom/Mat/Rand minutes and I guess that won't happen now? I do think the misdirection towards Mat/Owyn story was done super well.
This episode was pretty solid overall imo. The pacing of this episode was so different from the previous ones. I think they felt like they could do it at a more measured pace because so much of what they did was not in the books.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 10:02 am to oauron
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Also did Logain see her weaves? His line makes no sense otherwise.
I don’t think he had to see her weaves to understand that her power dwarfed his. He could see she just healed a cave full of 20 people with major injuries.
Also disappointed they got to Thom and the fade so quickly. Maybe the three will link back up since they didn’t show him get cut in the leg or whatever crippled him in the books.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 10:48 am to Cockopotamus
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I don’t think he had to see her weaves to understand that her power dwarfed his
This isn't really the case - Logain in the books is extremely powerful, a step below Ishamael, Rand and probably another forsaken or two but and in line with Demandred, Sammael and some of the second level forsaken I believe. Not sure if they are powering him down or if they will really get into relative power levels as much.
Nyneave is a couple steps below Lanfear and Alivia (who are at the top), there are a few others above Nyneave as well. They also grow in the power over time in the books, again unsure if this feature will be highlighted as much given time constraints.
But to your point, I'm unsure if we are going to get too much into the who can see weaves, who can sense other people's powers, etc. - at least at first. It may just muddy the waters and be confusing to audiences still trying to wrap their heads around other aspects of the worldbuilding.
They may be deciding to just let people interpret it as they see fit for now, and will go into more detail about how it works as we get more training sequences and things of that nature.
I think in the scene Nyn produced some level of light output, maybe as a byproduct of her first true embracing of the source and healing.
This post was edited on 11/27/21 at 10:51 am
Posted on 11/27/21 at 11:22 am to Sneaky__Sally
Moira one says something to Alanna about how it looks like Logaine is just sitting there when he’s really fighting against their shield.
I took that to mean that they couldn’t see his weaves.
I also didn’t remember Logaine being that powerful. I knew he was strong but I remember the kids that came out of Emunds Field were all significantly stronger than any of their contemporaries.
I took that to mean that they couldn’t see his weaves.
I also didn’t remember Logaine being that powerful. I knew he was strong but I remember the kids that came out of Emunds Field were all significantly stronger than any of their contemporaries.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 11:43 am to Cockopotamus
They are, but Rand is the GOAT strongest. I think he is essentially forsaken level powerful. I know SPOILERS FOR LAST BOOK: Logain survives a battle with Demandred who had a Sa'Angreal at the end so he has to be pretty powerful to survive even though he was injured and had to retreat.
Nyn is the strongest until I think they discover Alivia one of the damane who has been leashed for like 3 or 4 hundred years and everyone is shocked she is even more powerful than Nyn and I feel like there is a seafolk person who is close to Nyn and above Egwene. Nyn is certainly stronger than the weakest foresaken but Lanfear is referred to as the strongest.
I've done a whole reread recently which is why all this stuff is on my mind.
Nyn is the strongest until I think they discover Alivia one of the damane who has been leashed for like 3 or 4 hundred years and everyone is shocked she is even more powerful than Nyn and I feel like there is a seafolk person who is close to Nyn and above Egwene. Nyn is certainly stronger than the weakest foresaken but Lanfear is referred to as the strongest.
I've done a whole reread recently which is why all this stuff is on my mind.
This post was edited on 11/27/21 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/27/21 at 7:42 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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They are, but Rand is the GOAT strongest. I think he is essentially forsaken level powerful.
When he becomes Rand Sedai, he is beyond anyone, of either sex, by a large margin. He's essentially a Demigod at that point.
The only ones that can match Logain is Demandred and Mazrim, and even then it's not really clear if they're that much more powerful than Logain. Which is going to make how they use him in the series interesting.
Nyn is I think the third strongest in raw power, but she's by far the strongest in skill after Egwene goes cyrstal with the Sa'Angreal. Before that I think Nyn had more power, but Egwene had the skill. Everyone else is just raw power without the skill those two had.
I mean Nyn took down a forsaken before she even removed her block.
Keep in mind Moraine took Lanfear to the limit. And Moraine was below Elayne, Nyn, Egwene, and Aviendha. Not to mention Alivia and the seafolk girl. Sure, she had an An'greal, but it wasn't all that powerful.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 5:54 pm to Centinel
Rand and Moridin are essentially the max level of one power abilities. Robert Jordan got super technical into it and there is a maximum ability in the one power which also correlated with a range in how old a person could be outside of getting killed somehow.
But Rand hadn't reached his potential until the top of dragonmount I don't think.
But Rand hadn't reached his potential until the top of dragonmount I don't think.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:22 pm to Sneaky__Sally
These conversations are fun, and I know there is an official rating system, but the truth is like every other situation of this type its all plot-dependent.
I remember Rand struggling with Asmodean of all people despite handling Ishy multiple times.
The TV show will almost certainly be the same way.
I like what they did with Nyn because she should be clearly superior to most other channelers considering her import to the series as a whole, as second only to Rand.
I remember Rand struggling with Asmodean of all people despite handling Ishy multiple times.
The TV show will almost certainly be the same way.
I like what they did with Nyn because she should be clearly superior to most other channelers considering her import to the series as a whole, as second only to Rand.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:40 pm to Raistlins Apprentice
Ya, and there is a time period where you have growth in power - as shown in the black tower where working with the power made them increase in both power and skill faster.
I was kind of disappointed when I found out there was some like equation of power level to age and then the whole genetics thing.
It is cool he had that level of thought in it, but I don't know if we needed to know about it. Reduces some of the mystery and sense of wonder.
I was kind of disappointed when I found out there was some like equation of power level to age and then the whole genetics thing.
It is cool he had that level of thought in it, but I don't know if we needed to know about it. Reduces some of the mystery and sense of wonder.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:19 pm to Centinel
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The only ones that can match Logain is Demandred and Mazrim
Aren’t channelers signficantly weaker after being un-stilled? I know thats true of siuan and leane, why didn’t it apply to logaine after he was healed?
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:26 pm to Babble
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Aren’t channelers signficantly weaker after being un-stilled? I know thats true of siuan
The channeler needs to be healed by the opposite sex to be full power. So Logain getting healed by Nyn gave him full power back. And Damer Flinn healing the captured Aes Sedai instead of a female gave them full power back.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:27 pm to oauron
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The tinker's parts are just awful
I like how they’re leaning into the reincarnation aspect of the world, and I really liked the dialogue about how she was paving a better world for her daughter to be reborn in.
Something I always wished I would have gotten a bit more of in the books.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:44 pm to auyushu
I never knew that. I remember just thinking it was an inconsistency and ignored it lol
Posted on 12/1/21 at 8:42 am to Babble
Episode 2 was boring and the effects for Shadar Logoth were cringe inducing. Seriously. Where the frick is the VFX budget? Do they have any? Did most of the money go to buying the rights for WoT? I do not like this combination of these cheap looking practical sets combined with these background portrait painting landscapes. It looks awful to a distracting degree.
The paint by the numbers diversity is distracting as hell too and is being done in a way that is in no way organic. Especially when the world seems so damn small and de-populated.
There’s no organic chemistry with any of these actors either. Part of that is them not even building any backstory. I give no fricks about this iteration of WoT characters.
The costuming is also random as hell too. Thom looks like he’s from the Industrial Age and about to hop on a train. Just needs a pocket watch. Where the frick is his cloak? Sure… change characters willynilly but shite. You can’t even keep identifying costuming unique to characters intact? Rafe doesn’t seem like a fanboy at all. He’s a Stephanie Myers equivalent writing his fan fiction of WoT.
In their rush to get everything rushed, there’s seemingly zero story and zero character development. The acting has been meh. Perrin is awkward in every scene and being out acted by Egwene who isn’t exactly great. Mat is the only one I like and I’m still salty about having him stealing from the dead.
Can’t wait for E4 where Nyn goes super Saiyan with the one power with ZERO lead up after going all Dutch on that Trolloc where blademaster Tam struggled with just one.
This show is shite. I don’t see the appeal even if I were an ignorant casual fan of fantasy.
STARGATE SG1 did a superior job world-building and had better set-designs, costuming, etc. yea. It’s SciFi, but still. The thought out into all these various worlds was superior.
I was hoping the ensemble cast would at least be good but it’s been disappointing and all over the map. And now we will be in Tar Valon already. Seriously. I know the books are dense, but this is moving at such lightspeed everything is being sacrificed.
The paint by the numbers diversity is distracting as hell too and is being done in a way that is in no way organic. Especially when the world seems so damn small and de-populated.
There’s no organic chemistry with any of these actors either. Part of that is them not even building any backstory. I give no fricks about this iteration of WoT characters.
The costuming is also random as hell too. Thom looks like he’s from the Industrial Age and about to hop on a train. Just needs a pocket watch. Where the frick is his cloak? Sure… change characters willynilly but shite. You can’t even keep identifying costuming unique to characters intact? Rafe doesn’t seem like a fanboy at all. He’s a Stephanie Myers equivalent writing his fan fiction of WoT.
In their rush to get everything rushed, there’s seemingly zero story and zero character development. The acting has been meh. Perrin is awkward in every scene and being out acted by Egwene who isn’t exactly great. Mat is the only one I like and I’m still salty about having him stealing from the dead.
Can’t wait for E4 where Nyn goes super Saiyan with the one power with ZERO lead up after going all Dutch on that Trolloc where blademaster Tam struggled with just one.
This show is shite. I don’t see the appeal even if I were an ignorant casual fan of fantasy.
STARGATE SG1 did a superior job world-building and had better set-designs, costuming, etc. yea. It’s SciFi, but still. The thought out into all these various worlds was superior.
I was hoping the ensemble cast would at least be good but it’s been disappointing and all over the map. And now we will be in Tar Valon already. Seriously. I know the books are dense, but this is moving at such lightspeed everything is being sacrificed.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 8:43 am
Posted on 12/1/21 at 9:15 am to PhineasFreakaZoid
Cool. Don’t watch.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:03 pm to Fun Bunch
You seem more butt hurt than you claim me and others to be, friend. I am giving it a legitimate try watching this season in its entirety but it hasn’t gotten any better.
That does not bode well for its LoTR endeavors. I just don’t get how The Expanse and The Boys can look so good visually and this show look like garbage visually.
That does not bode well for its LoTR endeavors. I just don’t get how The Expanse and The Boys can look so good visually and this show look like garbage visually.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/1/21 at 1:29 pm to PhineasFreakaZoid
If you are only on episode 2, there's no way you should be judging the show. Really, 8 episode seasons should always be judged after the fact anyway, but certainly not after only 2 episodes, the first of which was legitimately problematic due to time constraints.
Then again, your comment regarding episode 4 tells me you are one of those people determined to hate the show no matter what.
In better news, the show has gotten better each episode, multiple people who have seen the first 6 say that continues with episode 6 being the best, and both Brandon Sanderson and Rosamund Pike have talked up episode 7 as being the best of them all, which makes sense with that being the dragon reborn reveal.
Then again, your comment regarding episode 4 tells me you are one of those people determined to hate the show no matter what.
In better news, the show has gotten better each episode, multiple people who have seen the first 6 say that continues with episode 6 being the best, and both Brandon Sanderson and Rosamund Pike have talked up episode 7 as being the best of them all, which makes sense with that being the dragon reborn reveal.
Posted on 12/1/21 at 2:07 pm to Raistlins Apprentice
It's not the best show ever but im really enjoying it.
Every episode has been better than previous.
Every episode has been better than previous.
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