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re: News from Brandon Sanderson regarding his writing addiction

Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 9:30 am to
I have a theory that his wife writes too, and she is just a silent partner in all of this. I just find it hard to believe one man could do all this, but I'm used to Rothfuss, GRRM and Lynch.

Anyway....

So where does all the Kickstarter money go? His pockets? Publishing costs?
Posted by 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 12:31 pm to
I know he did a similar campaign for “The way of Kings Prime”, which was essentially his first pass at The Way of Kings from early in his career. Those cost I think went to publishing and obviously to his pockets in some regard.

For this I would imagine it will go into production cost (books physical and audio) and the merchandise boxes.

Then whatever percentage to his staff to do all this before his profit.
Posted by gpburdell
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Posted on 3/3/22 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

He's insane, and from my understanding he still teaches full hours at his college.


Yeah he still teaches a writing class at BYU. I believe it's offered only one semester per year. He filmed the class a couple years ago and put it on Youtube. I've watched most of it and it's pretty interesting even if you aren't a writer.
This post was edited on 3/3/22 at 6:02 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:39 am to
The Kickstarter has now become the #1 Kickstarter of all time, raising over $20 million with 27 days to go.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:26 pm to
He's quickly closing in on $30M (at $29.6 with 2 weeks left), averaging around $232 per donor.

That man is insane with his work output.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 6:56 pm to
I’ve claimed on here he has to have a team of writers to keep that pace. The pace is astounding but his biggest accomplishment is upholding the quality of story telling. It’s unbelievable.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 8:04 pm to
Why does this baw need Kickstarter? I've never read his books, but his Wiki page suggests he's been successful and even has a movie deal for one of his novel series. Why does he need Kickstarter?
Posted by gpburdell
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 9:20 am to
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Why does he need Kickstarter?


These 4 books are being published (ebook, audiobook and hardcover) by his company, Dragonsteel Books, and not through traditional publishing houses. The Kickstarter is so they know exactly how many hardcovers they will need for the initial prinitng. His company did its first Kickstarter a couple years ago when they published a leatherbound edition for one of his books. That raised over $7M and is the second biggest publishing Kickstarter.

One of the reasons Sanderson created his company is so he can have some control over his success. Many years ago Amazon was in contract dispute with his publisher. When that happened, Amazon stopped selling his books which reduced his monthly income by 80% and he took that to heart.

What alot of people don't pick up on is Sanderson's vision in all of this. Sure there are other authors who have the popularity that could raise similar or even more on Kickstarter. The problem is they wouldn't be able to deliver successfully without some serious investment and time.

Dragonsteel is basically a mid sized publishing company (with editors, artists etc) including merchandising and fulfillment that is dedicated to Sanderson. He's built it up over 10+ years and has ~30 employees that he pays for out of his own pocket. No other author (in any genre) has anything similar like this and be able to self publish at the same scale. He's been using Dragonsteel for years to publish his smaller books, special leatherbound editions and create/sell merchandise.

CBS just did a good interview with him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvFNy4sVXM0

Posted by spehog
Little Rock
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 11:20 am to
And now he’s hinting at another secret… LINK

Either Secret History 2 or maybe film adaptation/video game of Mistborn would be my guesses?
Posted by nopants
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:04 pm to
I've somehow managed to never read any of Sanderson's books (other than the WoT ones he finished) but I've been wanting another good fantasy series to dig into lately.

So if I'm understanding you guys / the various charts I should read them in this order?

Mistborn Trilogy 1 (final empire)
Elantris + short stories (hope / soul)
Warbreaker
Mistborn Trilogy 2 (alloy of law)
Stormlight (way of kings)

that sound about right or no?
Posted by spehog
Little Rock
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:37 pm to
That’s fine. I recommended era 2 after era 1 and Mistborn secret history after era 2 but that format works too. That actually might be better because book 4 that finishes era two launches this November.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Dragonsteel is basically a mid sized publishing company (with editors, artists etc) including merchandising and fulfillment that is dedicated to Sanderson. He's built it up over 10+ years and has ~30 employees that he pays for out of his own pocket. No other author (in any genre) has anything similar like this and be able to self publish at the same scale. He's been using Dragonsteel for years to publish his smaller books, special leatherbound editions and create/sell merchandise.



MountainDale has to be getting close with all the LitRPG they produce.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10835 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 6:42 am to
There's Always Another Secret...
quote:

03.30.2022
9:00 AM MDT


What is he up to now?



ETA: It's Stormlight 5's prologue

This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by spehog
Little Rock
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:23 pm to
Mind melted quite a bit listening to it. Holy balls.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Mind melted quite a bit listening to it. Holy balls.


I'm nearing the end of Oathbringer now.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 7:10 pm to
He’s up to almost 40 million now. He’s got the resources, the company, etc to do this but if established authors started doing things like this it would really put a hurting on publishers, and Amazon.

I think authors will start doing things like this more and more. (I’m waiting for a big name to use patreon in this way)

I know there is some publisher sitting around wondering how much money the last few GoT book would have made like this in 2017. 100 million bucks I bet.

Also, you guys should check out a novella titled Legion that he wrote. It’s not fantasy, more like sci-fi. Think he sold it for tv but it was right when the fx show Legion came out and they were very similar so they couldn’t make it, but I thought his would have been a lot better.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 7:20 pm
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
83127 posts
Posted on 4/1/22 at 10:26 pm to
I’ve never read him either. My wife is a big fan. She was first exposed to him in WOT.

And I’m about to be, Bc I’m on book 11 of WOT now.
Posted by spehog
Little Rock
Member since Mar 2011
1209 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 10:18 am to
Congrats on finishing “the slog!” Books 11-14 are back to the good parts of WOT.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83127 posts
Posted on 4/2/22 at 1:34 pm to
I heard about the slog but tbh never really noticed it. I’ve enjoyed all of the books. Winters Heart might’ve been my favorite even. Also seemed that Robert Jordan’s prose improved as time went on.
Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4241 posts
Posted on 4/3/22 at 7:09 am to
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I heard about the slog but tbh never really noticed it.


That's probably because you didn't have to wait 8 years to get one books worth of story progress.

I haven't re-read all of WOT since before Jordan died, so I do wonder how I would view those books now that I can just binge them.

Also, I'm convinced Sanderson has mastered cloning and has several clones of himself locked in his basement pumping out books.
This post was edited on 4/3/22 at 7:20 am
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