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re: U.S. to require COVID tests for international passengers, including citizens
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:01 pm to Hat Tricks
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:01 pm to Hat Tricks
What's the big deal? Rapid tests take minutes and I'm sure the airlines will help facilitate the testing.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:46 pm to lazy
Got a notification from excellence that they will provide free onsite testing
Posted on 1/13/21 at 3:12 am to 03GeeTee
quote:
Wonder if there will be exceptions if you’ve had the vaccine?
I was getting the vaccine just so I could travel home. If the vaccine isn't good enough, then what's the point?
From the cdc.gov website it reads:
What if I have had a COVID-19 vaccine? Do I still need a negative COVID-19 test or documentation of recovery from COVID-19?
Yes, all air passengers traveling to the US, regardless of vaccination status, are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 3:55 am to Kraut Dawg
More from the FAQ section on the CDC website of this dumb arse order:
When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?
Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.
What if I have had a COVID-19 vaccine? Do I still need a negative COVID-19 test or documentation of recovery from COVID-19?
Yes, all air passengers traveling to the US, regardless of vaccination status, are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery.
What if I recently recovered from COVID-19?
CDC does not recommend getting tested again in the three months after a positive viral test, as long as you do not have symptoms of COVID-19. If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.”
Who is checking to make sure that people have a negative test or documentation of recovery before they board a plane to the US?
The airline will confirm a COVID-19 negative test result or documentation of recovery for all passengers before boarding.
What happens if I don’t take a test and want to travel to the US?
Air passengers traveling to the US are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery. Airlines must confirm the negative test result or documentation of recovery for all passengers before boarding. If a passenger chooses not to provide a test result or documentation of recovery, the airline must deny boarding to the passenger.
What is a verifiable test result?
A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result (Crickets editorial: this part is troubling, per their wording, as rapid tests/point of care obviously aren't tested in a lab). Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight.
What kind of documentation of my test result do I need to provide?
CDC requires that air passengers arriving in the US have a paper or electronic copy of their test result for review by the airline before you board and for potential review by public health officials after you arrive in the US.
Do airlines and operators of private flights or general aviation aircraft need to keep copies of passenger test results?
No, passengers must show a copy of their test results to airline employees or the aircraft operator before boarding, but the airline or aircraft operator does not need to retain copies of test results.
When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?
Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.
What if I have had a COVID-19 vaccine? Do I still need a negative COVID-19 test or documentation of recovery from COVID-19?
Yes, all air passengers traveling to the US, regardless of vaccination status, are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery.
What if I recently recovered from COVID-19?
CDC does not recommend getting tested again in the three months after a positive viral test, as long as you do not have symptoms of COVID-19. If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.”
Who is checking to make sure that people have a negative test or documentation of recovery before they board a plane to the US?
The airline will confirm a COVID-19 negative test result or documentation of recovery for all passengers before boarding.
What happens if I don’t take a test and want to travel to the US?
Air passengers traveling to the US are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery. Airlines must confirm the negative test result or documentation of recovery for all passengers before boarding. If a passenger chooses not to provide a test result or documentation of recovery, the airline must deny boarding to the passenger.
What is a verifiable test result?
A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result (Crickets editorial: this part is troubling, per their wording, as rapid tests/point of care obviously aren't tested in a lab). Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight.
What kind of documentation of my test result do I need to provide?
CDC requires that air passengers arriving in the US have a paper or electronic copy of their test result for review by the airline before you board and for potential review by public health officials after you arrive in the US.
Do airlines and operators of private flights or general aviation aircraft need to keep copies of passenger test results?
No, passengers must show a copy of their test results to airline employees or the aircraft operator before boarding, but the airline or aircraft operator does not need to retain copies of test results.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 4:19 am
Posted on 1/13/21 at 5:29 am to Panny Crickets
frick this world... and how does this make sense?
So if you have had it, you don’t need clearance... but if you’ve had the vaccine, you need a test.
These people are out of their gd minds. No common sense anywhere in this world.
quote:
What if I have had a COVID-19 vaccine? Do I still need a negative COVID-19 test or documentation of recovery from COVID-19? Yes, all air passengers traveling to the US, regardless of vaccination status, are required to provide a negative COVID-19 test result or documentation of recovery.
What if I recently recovered from COVID-19? CDC does not recommend getting tested again in the three months after a positive viral test, as long as you do not have symptoms of COVID-19. If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.”
So if you have had it, you don’t need clearance... but if you’ve had the vaccine, you need a test.
These people are out of their gd minds. No common sense anywhere in this world.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:18 am to Lsut81
Not to mention we’ve seen a lot of false positive tests in the nfl and college. So if you throw a false positive can you test out?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 6:49 am to Globetrotter747
Grateful I just went to Colombia. Looks like 2021 is shot for international travel
Posted on 1/13/21 at 7:52 am to TheOcean
What the hell are you supposed to do if you go to Mexico (or wherever) and then get a positive test? I guess you have to stay there until recovery and then get a letter from a doctor saying that you are all good?
With all of the false positives and a-symptomatic positives I could see this being a nightmare.
With all of the false positives and a-symptomatic positives I could see this being a nightmare.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:00 am to Panny Crickets
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If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel.
Anybody know a good doctor?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:12 am to Globetrotter747
I’m headed to Alaska in late Feb. AK already requires a proof of a negative test within 72 hours of departure to AK. Rapid testing results are acceptable.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:44 am to Globetrotter747
Scenario:
Book a trip to Wherever International.
Stay for 5 days.
Test at a third world hospital or rural doctor's office.
3 days later, you don't get results because it is a third world or really rural area.
Miss the flight back to US because you don't have the results.
Results come back in 5 days as positive (because of a false positive).
Wait another 10 days and retest....so on and on.
FML
Book a trip to Wherever International.
Stay for 5 days.
Test at a third world hospital or rural doctor's office.
3 days later, you don't get results because it is a third world or really rural area.
Miss the flight back to US because you don't have the results.
Results come back in 5 days as positive (because of a false positive).
Wait another 10 days and retest....so on and on.
FML
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:57 am to Globetrotter747
You cannot show a vaccine because the COVID vaccine is not meant to prevent you from getting the virus. It is meant to lessen the symptoms and not kill people. You can still get the virus and spread it. This is why I have NO desire to get the vaccine since I have had COVID and it was nothing, but.
The USVI and many small islands require a negative test before arrival, and have been doing that for months.
I think this will lead to many more airlines and airports having the test available, and people need to calm down. Keep your trips booked, I promise the airline industry will not let this slow down travel.
The USVI and many small islands require a negative test before arrival, and have been doing that for months.
I think this will lead to many more airlines and airports having the test available, and people need to calm down. Keep your trips booked, I promise the airline industry will not let this slow down travel.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:57 am to SaDaTayMoses
Exactly. It’s ridiculous because there is so much room for frickery
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:02 am to SaDaTayMoses
quote:
Scenario:
Book a trip to Wherever International.
Stay for 5 days.
Test at a third world hospital or rural doctor's office.
3 days later, you don't get results because it is a third world or really rural area.
Miss the flight back to US because you don't have the results.
Results come back in 5 days as positive (because of a false positive).
Wait another 10 days and retest....so on and on.
Screwball comedy
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:19 am to PrettyBird
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You cannot show a vaccine because the COVID vaccine is not meant to prevent you from getting the virus. It is meant to lessen the symptoms and not kill people. You can still get the virus and spread it.
Couldn't the same be said for someone who has recently recovered?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:37 am to SaDaTayMoses
quote:
Book a trip to Wherever International. Stay for 5 days. Test at a third world hospital or rural doctor's office. 3 days later, you don't get results because it is a third world or really rural area. Miss the flight back to US because you don't have the results. Results come back in 5 days as positive (because of a false positive). Wait another 10 days and retest....so on and on
To be honest I don’t think I could even enjoy my trip for fear of this type of nonsense to happen as the trip started to wind down .. I can’t miss that amount of work .. not many folks can.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:51 am to Globetrotter747
I know of three different couples who tested negative to board international flights. And all caught the Vid on the flight. All had symptoms 3/4 days at their destination,all had to quarantine in place for 10 days and couldn’t return to states with negative test. Huge $$$$$$$ loss . Crazy shite fo sho
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:54 am to Lawyered
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I can’t miss that amount of work
Technically, I can for as long as needed, but the phone rings and emails are non stop and really not a vacation anymore after 4-5 days away.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:55 am to Lawyered
I won't be booking international in 2021 for this reason - the chance of testing positive while abroad. I could work remotely but the cost of paying to stay an extra ~2 weeks that was not in my budget... not worth it. However, this comes as no surprise to me that international travel is off the table in 2021. I had hopes for 2022 or even 23, and until then I'll enjoy traveling within the US. Plenty to see here that I have not yet.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:57 am to PrettyBird
I’d like to keep this thread going if possible. Anyone with experiences as this moves forward please let us know.
As PrettyBird says, I hope the airlines will come up with a way to make this happen. It may cause some extra hassle on your way back, for example, maybe show up to the airport 3-4 hours early so you can get tested there. But then again, there are hundreds of international locations so making this an option at each one doesn’t seem realistic...
As PrettyBird says, I hope the airlines will come up with a way to make this happen. It may cause some extra hassle on your way back, for example, maybe show up to the airport 3-4 hours early so you can get tested there. But then again, there are hundreds of international locations so making this an option at each one doesn’t seem realistic...
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