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Are planes landing a lot faster?

Posted on 4/4/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11804 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 8:30 pm
I feel like these planes are coming in way too hot. I don’t know if it’s just me or just the luck of the draw but I’ve had a lot of dicey landings recently.
Posted by CuseTiger
On the road
Member since Jul 2013
8209 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 8:45 pm to
Okay you got me curious . What plane types have you been on? Landing on a 739 feels a lot faster than a CRJ-900 for example, but found a site with landing speeds for different aircraft types.

quote:

When Landing (Approach)

Most commercial airliners land with a speed of between 240 to 265 km/h or 150 to 165 mph.

Landing speed depends on the weight of the plane, the runway surface, and the plane’s flap settings.



LINK

140-160mph average, but they can operate higher and still be in spec. I'll agree with you that I've had some fast landing flights recently (looking at the 739s in particular) but just chalk it up to pilot and air traffic control speed preferences
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 9:02 pm to
Jet fuel is expensive. Gotta get that big bird on the ground, chief.
Posted by oVo
Member since Dec 2013
11804 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 9:24 pm to
Commercial airlines, whether it’s a 737 or Airbus 321 Neo. I’ve noticed this the past year or so. Some of the landings were a little violent
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14106 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:38 am to
It can depend on weather, and sometimes ATC at very busy airports.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:58 am to
I’ve heard it depends on pilot experience. Former Navy pilots land fast, hard and come at a wild trajectory because they are trained to land on aircraft carriers. Other former military pilots are more easy and slower.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 6:34 am to
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Navy pilots


No such thing.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140565 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:10 am to
quote:

As a Navy Fighter Pilot, the sky is your domain. You’ll be part of an elite group of aviators who fly and fight in the world’s most lethal jets—all from the deck of an aircraft carrier.


Navy.com
Posted by aileron
H-Town
Member since Apr 2018
236 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Are planes landing a lot faster?


No. Faster landings cause tires to wear out faster. Tires are expensive so airlines discourage faster landings.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6027 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Former Navy pilots land fast, hard and come at a wild trajectory because they are trained to land on aircraft carriers. Other former military pilots are more easy and slower


I've always heard this as well. Navy pilots had a short runway and Air Force had a long runway to glide in on. I've heard this from pilot friends. It may be an old wives tail that they perpetuate.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:21 pm to
I've got 2 pilot buddies, one is an ex Marine chopper pilot flying for Southwest and the other is an ex-Navy pilot flying A321's for AA.

The ex-Marine flies like that 737 is his own personal Ferrari while the ex-Navy guy flies like his grandma is holding a cassrole in the backseat of the family Truckster
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14106 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:44 pm to
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I've got 2 pilot buddies, one is an ex Marine chopper pilot flying for Southwest and the other is an ex-Navy pilot flying A321's for AA.

The ex-Marine flies like that 737 is his own personal Ferrari while the ex-Navy guy flies like his grandma is holding a cassrole in the backseat of the family Truckster



True story, AA pilots are known to taxi slower than any other airline.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17165 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

I’ve heard it depends on pilot experience. Former Navy pilots land fast, hard and come at a wild trajectory because they are trained to land on aircraft carriers. Other former military pilots are more easy and slower.


This is a myth. At the end of the day. Pilots are type rated on commercial aircraft and fly within a very specific envelope. They don’t get to just fly an approach faster and tighter.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6007 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:05 pm to
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AA pilots are known to taxi slower than any other airline.


WN pilots taxi like they’re on a racetrack.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58856 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 7:16 am to
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Navy.com




Kay. Did you hear the whooshing sound as the joke went over your head?

Here's more from that website for you:

quote:

This is on the premise that transgender persons are subject to the same standards that are consistent with military service and readiness including medical fitness for duty, physical fitness, uniform and grooming standards, deployability and retention.


This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 11:50 am
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6549 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Former Navy pilots land fast, hard and come at a wild trajectory because they are trained to land on aircraft carriers. Other former military pilots are more easy and slower


I pulled that stunt on a family trip to Denver. Business flyers experience far more than tourists. Captain told the cabin the Co-Pilot Captain Easy was landing today. "We call him easy because you can't tell when he touches down." Bang, bang, skip, boom ....yeah right. At the gate we get up and I comment to the in-laws and stepson ..:Dang Navy pilot, still trying to get the tail hook down." They got to the front and got invited into the cockpit. Stepson asks ...."How did you learn to fly?" "Well the pilot learned in commercial flight school or you can do as I did. Flying for the Navy."
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5520 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:52 am to
Posted by TigerGrl73
Nola
Member since Jan 2004
21278 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

feel like these planes are coming in way too hot

I've felt that way the past few years. Seems like in the past the planes would slowly descend and land. Now it feels like we're still going really fast just above the ground then bam.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38723 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 4:03 pm to
Most commercial aircraft now have Autolaisnd systems which basically require no pilot. The old way of stairstepping the descent is obsolete and the plane makes a continuous,steady descent.
Posted by TigerGrl73
Nola
Member since Jan 2004
21278 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:00 pm to
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The old way of stairstepping the descent is obsolete and the plane makes a continuous,steady descent.

That explains it then.
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