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re: YouTube tv just upped their price significantly
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:07 pm to t00f
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:07 pm to t00f
quote:Are you sure? Because those motherfrickers at Cox will straight up lie to you. I asked three different ways so there would be no "miscommunication" and the bitch still lied to me.
Cox has 300mb, HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and Stars, and home automation for $140 a month after all taxes etc.
"Is that my price after all taxes and fees?"
"Yes."
"Are there any additional fees or taxes that you haven't mentioned?"
"No."
"Is this the exact total amount that I will be paying each month?"
"Yes."
Bill ended up about 20% higher than what she said and I dropped after 1 month.
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:33 pm to Korkstand
$109 prior in the deal so yes I am sure.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:03 am to Korkstand
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Are you sure? Because those motherfrickers at Cox will straight up lie to you. I asked three different ways so there would be no "miscommunication" and the bitch still lied to me.
same exact thing happened to me with Cox.
I asked several times, so the bill is going to be $101whatever? yes.
no other fees or anything, that's the monthly cost over month right? yes.
Get the first bill and it's $123. Pay it b/c I figured there was some first month one time stuff on it.
next one is $123. called and cancelled that day.
When Vue went up that's when I went back to cable for that short time, then I said screw it and now I use my dad's login for ESPN/FoxSports/TNT to watch live sports, always had an antenna, and I download the shows the wife and I watch onto plex via torrents. I wake up every Saturday morning, go set up all the downloads, takes about 5 minutes, and we are good for the week, granted we watch everything a week late, but I don't care b/c with young kids you don't watch anything on time anyway.
And I pay almost $80 for the fricken interent without cable b/c I only have 1 internet provider in my neighborhood which gives me zero leverage to negotiate a lower rate.
If Cox could offer me all the ESPN's with the SECN, and my FoxSports affiliate, maybe TNT/TBS for NBA and MLB playoffs and March Madness, i'd pay $100 a month for that login privilege with internet.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:33 am to JohnnyKilroy
Works for me. Now I can cancel Hulu.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:36 am to HubbaBubba
Philo will be the biggest loser in all this, I bet it cripples them. Which is sad, philo has the best UI and the cleanest, smoothest function...hopefully they can grow channel offerings and compete with YTTV because I'd switch to them
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:43 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
Truly don't understand this move. Obviously I'm not privvy to Google's corporate strategy, but I would think continuing to snuff out traditional cable and collecting that sweet sweet (and very valuable) data on its users would be much more important than a $15/month price increase and subsequent exodus of current users.
I think what you're underestimating is the power/value of bundling. There's a reason it's been around for decades as the main strategy in the industry. How many people are going to actually leave YTTV over this? Compare that to how many more will sign up because they can watch the very popular home improvement genre. Channels you and your friends don't care about aren't necessarily Channels that nobody cares about. It's a numbers game. Sign up more people than you lose over the price increase and it's a net gain.
Considering most everyone else is in the same price range and the true alternative is Piracy, which is both difficult and inconsistent in quality, I think Google will add more people than it will lose with this move.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 10:51 am to TigerinATL
I get fox sports southwest plus, not fox sports southwest. That’s my biggest aggregation now. I’m happy to get discovery but not really happy about $10 increase
Posted on 4/11/19 at 12:08 pm to Chad504boy
Just convince your friends to switch and andd them to your family plan. Ive been sharing YouTube TV with my friends and it comes out to be like 80 a year. They literally just have to add your google account to the family.
We exercise the added preliminary caution of logging into their home wifi and playing the app every now and then. Ive done that maybe twice in a year. Absolutely no issues.
We exercise the added preliminary caution of logging into their home wifi and playing the app every now and then. Ive done that maybe twice in a year. Absolutely no issues.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 1:57 pm to JohnnyKilroy
The $15 increase probably doesn't correlate directly with the few channels they added. Google likely realized they needed to increase prices and this was a way to soften the blow.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 2:29 pm to JohnnyKilroy
It's still cheaper than the 100 bucks a month that we were paying for cable TV. Still, will probably drop YouTube TV until football season starts.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:19 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
same exact thing happened to me with Cox.
I asked several times, so the bill is going to be $101whatever? yes.
no other fees or anything, that's the monthly cost over month right? yes.
Get the first bill and it's $123. Pay it b/c I figured there was some first month one time stuff on it.
next one is $123.
It is absolutely insane to me that they can get away with this. All I know is Cox will never get another dime from me. If I'm ever in a situation where Cox is the only decent internet provider in my neighborhood, I 100% will put up a tower and start a WISP and be my own ISP.
quote:If you don't mind doing it like that, then that works. But I'm just tossing out there that you can automate this with a program called Sonarr that you can run on the same machine with Plex. It takes some time to get it set up right, but once done it's mostly smooth sailing. You put in your shows and it monitors your torrent site(s) for them, and grabs them when it sees them. Your shows just pop up in Plex very shortly after they air (and sometimes before).
I download the shows the wife and I watch onto plex via torrents. I wake up every Saturday morning, go set up all the downloads, takes about 5 minutes, and we are good for the week
Posted on 4/11/19 at 8:10 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I had it during the ncaa Tournament and liked it. Great service. I’ll use it during football probably. I only subscribe during March madness and college football. Love being able to cancel whenever I want. Big plus for these streaming services.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:57 pm to Mac
quote:
I cancelled Vue when they did this. They forced me to go full cord cutter.
i still pay $35
Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:24 pm to fallguy_1978
I have YouTubeTV and FuboTV for international soccer.
May just jump to the big cable plan now.
May just jump to the big cable plan now.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:47 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Yeah I’m gonna have to drop it
Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:49 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Exactly. Even at $40 per month, you have internet at around 50 to 60 bucks per month, then HBO or Netflix, you’re not saving money really. Might as well go back to cable.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:20 am to TigerinATL
quote:
I think what you're underestimating is the power/value of bundling. There's a reason it's been around for decades as the main strategy in the industry. How many people are going to actually leave YTTV over this? Compare that to how many more will sign up because they can watch the very popular home improvement genre. Channels you and your friends don't care about aren't necessarily Channels that nobody cares about. It's a numbers game. Sign up more people than you lose over the price increase and it's a net gain.
What I'm saying is that YouTube TV + nonbundled internet plan came out to around 15-20 less the per month than traditional cable. With this price increase, a bundled tv and internet package is right around the same price and you can get a few more channels.
The main draw was the lower price vs cable. That advantage is nearly gone now.
I guess one of my main gripes is that Google collects and profits majorly from all the user data they collect through their services like YouTube TV. At least they could keep the subscription price down.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:27 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
I guess one of my main gripes is that Google collects and profits majorly from all the user data they collect through their services like YouTube TV. At least they could keep the subscription price down.
I think this is the piece that bothers me most. If they're going to charge cable prices, then don't allow CBS or other providers to override my dvr recording and enforce VOD watching with an inability to fastforward through commercials. It works fine when I'm watching shite on my computer with an ad blocker on it, but on the TV it was attrocious for a while. 5-6 commercial breaks and often were over 4 minutes each... they finally fixed the duration to where it's typically no more than 2 minutes-ish, but the number of them increased.
I'll keep it for a little while longer, but likely this will push me to something else.
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