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Posted on 10/27/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by captron
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 3:17 pm

May be BS but maybe not

spacex rumor


SpaceX is getting closer to making its Starlink satellite internet service available to customers. This week, the company sent out emails to those who showed interest in being part of the Starlink beta testing.

SpaceX is calling the beta test “Better Than Nothing” with the email starting out by saying SpaceX is “trying to lower your initial expectations.”

Expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mbps to 150Mbps and latency from 20ms to 40ms over the next several months as we enhance the Starlink system. There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mbps to 150Mbps and latency from 20ms to 40ms over the next several months as we enhance the Starlink system. There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.



Like every internet provider ever.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 3:30 pm to
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Expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mbps to 150Mbps and latency from 20ms to 40ms over the next several months as we enhance the Starlink system. There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.


Still better than Comcast
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 4:26 pm to
Pricing is not terrible, but I'm hoping they say one way or the other about data caps soon.
Posted by Fat Batman
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Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Pricing is not terrible


$99/mo plus a $500 buy-in for

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Expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mbps to 150Mbps and latency from 20ms to 40ms over the next several months as we enhance the Starlink system. There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.


I guess it's not bad if you live in the boonies since you have no other choice, but I think most major ISPs are beating that price/performance pretty handily.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 5:07 pm
Posted by LSUtigerME
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 5:09 pm to
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I guess it's not bad if you live in the boonies since you have no other choice, but I think most major ISPs are beating that price/performance pretty handily.

Yeah I was a little disappointed in that price point. It’s not terrible, but a little steep by comparison. Best I get is 10/1 where I’m at for $50/mo. I was hoping this would give me a better option.
Posted by humblepie
Member since May 2008
536 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 5:42 pm to
This compares very favorably to other satellite internet where you might get 20\3 for $100 a month $400 startup cost and a very very low monthly cap. Oh and don't forget the 1 second latency.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 7:47 pm to
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$99/mo plus a $500 buy-in for
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Expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mbps to 150Mbps and latency from 20ms to 40ms over the next several months as we enhance the Starlink system. There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.
I guess it's not bad if you live in the boonies since you have no other choice, but I think most major ISPs are beating that price/performance pretty handily.
They ain't calling it "better than nothing" for nothing.

The point is to reach underserved markets, and I think the pricing is actually pretty good for what you get compared to some other options (geostationary satellite, sloooow dsl).

I would also expect Musk to do everything possible to lower the pricing later on.
Posted by wickowick
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:07 am to
I agree, I think the pricing will come down as they work out the kinks. This isn’t made to compete in areas with broadband established, but instead to provide broadband where it is not currently offered
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 9:47 am to
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This isn’t made to compete in areas with broadband established, but instead to provide broadband where it is not currently offered


It is absolutely designed to compete with broadband.

Most people only have one option for service in their area. Also, broadband rarely ever delivers on the advertised "maximum" speed. The average speed across the USA is less than 50mbs.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1382 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 11:48 am to
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Also, broadband rarely ever delivers on the advertised "maximum" speed.


In my experience with Cox this is not the case.

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The average speed across the USA is less than 50mbs


This seems like it is, if true, probably a skewed stat.
Average how? Like Baton Rouge would be 1000mbps and the middle of the Mojave Desert would be 0mbps or are we talking the average household internet speed? If the former then it is obvious why that stat is meaningless, if the latter then that stat is probably heavily skewed by household income versus availability. ~75% of the US population lives in or near urban areas. Most, if not all of, those urban areas are likely served by an ISP that can provide at or above 50mbps down speeds. So, it is probably safe to assume the average available bandwidth to Americans across the US is higher than 50mbps speeds, even though some households may choose not to pay for those speeds. I could see this bringing the average household internet speed below 50mbps, but that doesn't mean the average available speed to households is less than 50mbps. So, if they are choosing to have slower than 50mbps because it is $50/mo and they can't afford it then they certainly aren't Starlink's target demographic.

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Most people only have one option for service in their area.


Starlink would be better off catering to the ~25% of Americans that do not live near urban areas at their current pricing/performance. Adding another option for those with access to broadband isn't going to steal a lot of customers away at the above-quoted pricing/performance
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 12:54 pm to
Any word on data caps?
Posted by humblepie
Member since May 2008
536 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 7:13 am to
No caps during the beta. I don't think they have confirmed the final specs yet though.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:12 am to
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There will also be brief periods of no connectivity at all.

Depends on how frequent this is. Every 10 mins or every 10 hours or every couple weeks?
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20384 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:23 am to
I once lived in the boonies at a newly established address.

I wouldve killed for Starlink back then. That 1.5 MB/s with horrible latency and packet loss was awful

The problem I think with reaching those who need this will be the marketing.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 9:24 am
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:23 am to
Suddenlink is shaking in their shoes
Posted by DynaMike
Member since Aug 2015
853 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:07 am to
I tweeted at Musk asking for the beta since I still do not have Suddenlink back up in SWLA. He didn't answer
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 12:00 pm to

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Depends on how frequent this is. Every 10 mins or every 10 hours or every couple weeks?


Yes.

It’ll be over gaps in orbital periods as they are filling out the network.

At first it will be fairly regular. Then it will wind down to a stars aligning scenario like 5 minutes every 96 hours.

Then not at all.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7467 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 9:16 pm to
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Pricing is not terrible, but I'm hoping they say one way or the other about data caps soon
this is the key. I would cut the cord if not for data caps!!

Eta: my hope is that Musk has always been “let’s do what’s good for all” . If so, he’ll offer a set price with no caps . If not, he’s no better than AT&T or Comcast.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53472 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 9:39 am to
Prices are HORRIBLE! I pay 35 dollars cheaper with non sat in rural area for 85 down and 30 up.


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