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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?

Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:37 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:37 am to
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that is what I was talking about earlier in that .MKV doesn't support Dolby Vision.
you don't think this will get sorted out eventually? Around the same time Dolby vision v2 comes out?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:40 am to
Really hard to say tbh. You would think eventually?

But .MP4 has never added lossless audio support so maybe not.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:41 am to
Who knew it was this difficult to download dark side of the moon?




There's about 7 more screens worth to scroll through.

. Audiophiles are craaaaaazy
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 3:46 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:45 am to


I remember buying a handful of albums I couldn't find in lossless, used HDTracks and some other similar site to complete the library. And some Russian torrent site for their huge library of lossless music.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 3:46 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:54 am to
There's still a secret audiophile torrent site out there with exacting standards no mortal can stain.

Makes that site I posted above look bush league.

I was invited one time and didn't last 10 minutes. They don't have time for posers like me. You're either on their level or you're out.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 4:13 am to
Posted by armsdealer
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 4:40 am to
I must have lost my eye in the past 15 years or so. When I first had my own house I set up a theater room with an HD projector, 130" screen, surround sound, ran all my equipment to a closet.. had to vent the closet... It was an amazing experience, only in 720 back then, well it claimed 1080 but I ran everything 720 through my receiver.

Today I am happy with my 65" bedroom TV, it is a lower end Visio 4k that I exclusively stream on and I think the quality is great. We can run discs on the living room TV but my kids dominate that. It is a shame that is where my surround sound is, because 90% of the time they use a headset. I no longer have a theater room, different house, more kids, less extra rooms. The only extra room now is a shop/gun room/gym. My wife wants to build a house, it will have a dedicated theater again, I will go bigger than I originally had, always got to one up the past.

I have really gotten WAY more use out of my TV the past 2 months with everything shut down, I find Disney+ to have the best streaming quality out of Hulu, Netflix, Amazon and Disney+. I use to never watch anything on TV, it would go days if not weeks without getting turned on if there wasn't a football or basketball game on, now it gets used daily. Not for hours on end, well except when I binged Waco not to long ago.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 5:41 am to
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Those pesky remote users



That and the release group Framestor being in the name gave it away.

Framestor is a release group on BeyondHD.
Posted by TigerWise
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:35 am to
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This is also where we are trending with new releases instead of movie theaters IMO. "Direct from Theater" as they are calling it.


Yes, Hollywood was already starting to do this before COVID with services like Red Carpet Home Cinema. You would think in a post covid world people might shy away from going to the movies and look to try and duplicate that experience at home.

As far as disc vs streaming the disc are going to be a little ahead of the steaming quality until Hollywood figures out how they can deliver it to consumers the way the film makers intended with copyright protections in place.

If you are the person that wants the latest and greatest and you have all new IMAX Enhanced equipment that you want to push to its limits you are going to need to buy a disc. Over time I do believe this will change, but there is always that next big thing.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 5:55 pm to
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We get it, you're super super niche and hoard tons of illegal content on big hard drives. Just know that the vast majority of consumers, low and high end, are never going to do that or need to.


Was about to post the same thing

I get that it’s a better quality option, but it’s just naive to assume everyone else out there is gonna learn how to use Plex and set up their own server, etc. I’m a person who is pretty picky when it comes to TVs and picture quality and all that and I’m also fairly competent with tech/computers (but far from an expert). But it’s just way to easy and convenient to click buy/rent on Vudu in 4K HDR and get really good quality. Sure it’s not the “best” quality, but it’s good enough and easy enough for me
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:03 pm to
Nah, 99.5% of people don't want to deal with it being illegal first of all. And then they certainly don't want to spend the hours required to set it up.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:02 am to
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Nah, 99.5% of people don't want to deal with it being illegal first of all. And then they certainly don't want to spend the hours required to set it up.


wait so we're saying people who spend $25,000 on a high end home theater setup balk at spending less than $1,000 more for a PC & hard drive to organize their private media library?

i'm super confused here. i would assume anyone spending that kind of money wants to show off how easy it is to play anything.

its almost absurd to think they lack the technical skills to convert from disks to a private local library after having invested massive amounts of money on a theater.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:08 am to
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i would assume anyone spending that kind of money wants to show off how easy it is to play anything.


Which is to press 2 buttons on their remote to launch an app and then 2 more to start the movie with all quality options.

Like we said last night, what you do is just completely unnecessary in this day and age.

People can go buy their nice TV's, plug it in, and fire up Vudu and watch their favorite movie in 4K/HDR/DVision/Atmos in ~30 seconds.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 12:17 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:23 am to
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Which is to press 2 buttons on their remote to launch an app and then 2 more to start the movie with all quality options.

Like we said last night, what you do is just completely unnecessary in this day and age.


you're saying 100% of my personal library is available within 2 clicks? i'm gonna call bullshite on that one. you're going to have to search through multiple services and probably sit for 10 minutes & sign up for yet another service to chase down the movie you just want to play.

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People can go buy their nice TV's, plug it in, and fire up Vudu and watch their favorite movie in 4K/HDR/DVision/Atmos in ~30 seconds.


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When streaming-video platform Vudu announced earlier this week it was to be acquired by Comcast (NASDAQ:CMCSA) subsidiary Fandango, investors weren't exactly blown away. Vudu isn't a streaming video powerhouse, and while most movie fans know Fandango offers online access to video entertainment in addition to selling theater tickets, it's not quite making waves, either. The deal just looks like the melding of two mediocre companies into one larger mediocre company still operating in a weird niche of the streaming market.


LINK



enjoy your new comcast product. let me know how that works out for you in 6 months when comcast shite-cans it.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 12:24 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:29 am to
That is a very good acquisition so now all libraries are merged. Vudu was the only one with Dolby Atmos movies and 99% of the Dolby Vision movies, this is because they stream in higher bitrates than Fandango. Already told you this last night.

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enjoy your new comcast product. let me know how that works out for you in 6 months when comcast shite-cans it.


What?


ETA: Just noticed you posted a link to the Motley Fool, oh boy.

You almost got me to click that shite too.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 12:41 am
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:43 am to
would you prefer bloomberg or reuters?

this is a pretty well known transaction.

i want zero to do with comcast or their subsidiares. all comcast does is frick shite up like stringify.

you actually think this is a good thing for that service?
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 12:45 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:43 am to
I know, I told you about it last night in this very thread.

It's a massive acquisition for the movie industry and streaming world.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 12:45 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:46 am to
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i want zero to do with comcast or their subsidiares. all comcast does is frick shite up like stringify.

you actually think this is a good thing for that service?



Comcast has owned the majority of Fandango for over a decade my friend.

If you would like to educate yourself some TheVerge has a good article on it with numbers.

LINK
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:47 am to
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It's a massive disaster for the movie industry and streaming users


fixed

comcast does nothing good.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:50 am to
They must, Fandango is a massive success since it's inception in 2000. 60M+ monthly visitors is bonkers for a movie rental app. I am really dumbfounded that you don't know anything about it in 2020.

You should really familiarize yourself with it as we head to digital releases alongside theaters in the future. You're the one that has mentioned being old school and behind the times or whatever in response to people buying 4K BR discs, yet you are even worse than them not knowing about Fandango and the future that is movies at home.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 1:23 am
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