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UltimateHog
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
.MKV doesn't support Dolby Vision, .MP4 doesn't support lossless audio my friend. Thus, no true Dolby Vision.


CAD703X
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
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What can I say though? I'm a data hoarder with 40TB+ of storage space to fill. And it makes it easy to share with others remotely so they can enjoy the same files.


4K Direct stream for me, transcoded x.264 for thee.


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CAD703X
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
this the hill you want to die on? Where are you going to be when 8K becomes mainstream? Going to upgrade the old disk muncher?

At most my PC will have to be upgraded to handle the processing but the one I have has handled everything from 720 all the way to 4K HDR10 without having to add so much as a stick of RAM.




UltimateHog
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Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
For 8K? Absolutely. Will only become more necessary as the quality of displays increases. But again, you sacrifice quality and that's fine for lower end setups who cares? When you drop 3K+ on setups you want the best, period. That will always be disc, and for those that don't want to go the disc route, you press your remote about 3 times and you rent it for $5.99 (or buy) in 4K HDR/Dolby Vision/Atmos etc.

We get it, you're super super niche and hoard tons of illegal content on big hard drives. Just know that the vast majority of consumers, low and high end, are never going to do that or need to.

I can only imagine trying to download an 8K remux, 500GB a pop. frick it, I've got 3 trillion GB's in hard drives lets go!
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CAD703X
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
So you're arguing high end users will either be ok with Netflix quality and selection or they will happily drive to Walmart or order a BD disk online and wait for it to arrive whenever they want "high quality"?

I'm not sure I follow how what I'm doing is so niche.
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UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
High end users will be on BluRay for quality, yes.

The rest will rent/buy digitally.

This is where Fandango buying out Vudu a few months ago is big, because Vudu has been the go to for Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos for years now with 3x the content, not even sure Fandango has Atmos. But now there is just one main service going forward instead of 2.

This is also where we are trending with new releases instead of movie theaters IMO. "Direct from Theater" as they are calling it.
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CAD703X
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can only imagine trying to download an 8K remux, 500GB a pop. frick it, I've got 3 trillion GB's in hard drives lets go!
nah. 10tb drives are $120 now and I'm only interested in moving my favorites (blade runner and sequel, Star wars, Lord of the rings, etc) to the highest quality initially so I'll have plenty of space when 8k starts to trickle in.

Same thing happened with 4K. I updated blade runner from 1080p x.264 to remux to 4K to 4K HDR to 4K remux.

I won't spend that kind of time updating on just any movie.

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UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
Jesus. So pointless.


CAD703X
Toledo Fan
Liberty Island
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
we're both slaves to the constant format bait and switch. We're just coming at it from different angles.


UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
That's true.

Blade Runner $3.99 rent $9.99 own 4K

Scroll to very bottom next to info for the formats. 4K HDR Dolby Vision Dolby Atmos.

That is what I would do for example. But I don't mind the ~$10 when compared to IMO the outdated movie theater experience at more money for one time viewing at less quality.
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CAD703X
Toledo Fan
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
Yes I'm a digital hoarder.

I was also the guy buying massive quantities of dvd+r and dvd-r media and wasting just at much time arguing which was better to burn DVDs to



I need help
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CAD703X
Toledo Fan
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
64501 posts

re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
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Blade Runner $3.99 rent $9.99 own 4K

Scroll to very bottom next to info for the formats. 4K HDR Dolby Vision Dolby Atmos.




What makes you think this isn't my own rip?



UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
I used to hoard music quite a bit, and then took the time to find and convert my whole library to FLAC and ALAC. Quit with that years ago though couldn't keep doing it.


UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
I didn't say it wasn't. No Dolby Vision, come on over bro I will fire up the C9 and you can watch that puppy in all its glory. Big difference from standard HDR. I have an Atmos system too, never seen the movie.
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CAD703X
Toledo Fan
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Member since Jul 2008
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
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No Dolby Vision,
yet...


UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
Yes, and streaming it through Vudu loses a good bit of quality anyways but that's about convenience too. I'd have to buy the bluray at that point if I was going to wow you in all that movies glory.
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EarlyCuyler3
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re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
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What makes you think this isn't my own rip?



Ugh, the time to do a proper 1080p encode is a pain in the ass. Couldn't imagine spending the time to do a HDR one.


CAD703X
Toledo Fan
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
64501 posts

re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
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, the time to do a proper 1080p encode is a pain in the ass. Couldn't imagine spending the time to do a HDR one.

Those pesky remote users

The Glengarry movies don't get shared.


UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
56972 posts

re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
But that is what I was talking about earlier in that .MKV doesn't support Dolby Vision.

So you'd need the .MP4 version, and then you run into .MP4 doesn't support lossless audio so there goes your Dolby TrueHD/Atmos.
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CAD703X
Toledo Fan
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
64501 posts

re: Physical 4k disc vs Streaming?
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used to hoard music quite a bit, and then took the time to find and convert my whole library to FLAC and ALAC. Quit with that years ago though couldn't keep doing it.

I think we are both grandfathered into Google music at $8/mo but I still maintain a ton of my own music because I don't trust Google will provide it after all the dust settles on YouTube music.

I have too much weird music that's not easily found on streaming services


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