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re: LG OLED vs Sony OLED

Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:37 am to
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:37 am to
The issue with Samsung is that they do not support Dolby Vision. Their logic is that the image quality is good enough already and that Dolby Vision adds nothing... In reality they likely don't want to pay the licensing fee.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:12 am to
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The issue with Samsung is that they do not support Dolby Vision. Their logic is that the image quality is good enough already and that Dolby Vision adds nothing... In reality they likely don't want to pay the licensing fee.


I agree it is most likely about the licensing fee but I will say after using DV for about 5 years now, really good HDR10 content is just as enjoyable for me. It is still the case that few TVs fully utilize 1000nit+ content where DV can really stretch its legs. The captured details in dark content of DV is nice but the non-dark content generally has more pop in HDR10 format.

If I had to pick between two TVs where one did DV and the other did HDR10/HDR10+ and was cheaper, I'd pick the non-DV TV.

Vincent Teoh and FOMO on youtube have many great side-by-side comparisons of TVs and many times they will find the high quality HDR10 set has a better picture than a similar or lesser priced Dolby Vision TV. There is so much more that goes into producing the picture than just the content container.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 8:14 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:31 am to
at 57 years old i'm probably going to need to upgrade my eyes first before i can enjoy any of this
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67570 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:46 pm to
Yeah DV is mostly just marketing when compared to HDR10 and HDR10+.

Some good articles out there about no real difference and that's why sites like Rtings say Dolby vision support should never influence your decision on a new TV.

A lot of people don't understand none of that stuff matters if you're just streaming content at 15-20% compression loss. You'd have to be a videophile with a nice 4K Blu-ray player and even then it's still minimal difference but that's the only time DV has any visible difference from HDR10/+.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 8:18 pm
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:36 pm to
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You'd have to be a videophile with a nice 4K Blu-ray player and even then it's still minimal difference but that's the only time DV has any visible difference from HDR10/+.
or a Ugoos AM6B+ running Corelec with full FEL Dolby Vision support and HDR10 and HDR10+ conversion to DV.
Posted by jttasty
Texas
Member since Oct 2011
222 posts
Posted on 10/10/24 at 11:24 am to
What is OT poor?
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5091 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:00 am to
The newest round of OLED's solve the brightness issue (lack thereof) that turned me off from OLEDs, but the whole burn-in risk is something I would have no interest in needing to worry about with a TV.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:45 am to
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but the whole burn-in risk is something I would have no interest in needing to worry about with a TV.


the risk is so infinitesimal that it can be disregarded entirely. The mitigation tech is far more advanced than it was a few years ago.

By the time you had any slight burn-in, it'd be time to upgrade the TV anyway. Do people really keep TVs for 10+ years?
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5091 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:58 am to
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the risk is so infinitesimal that it can be disregarded entirely. The mitigation tech is far more advanced than it was a few years ago.

By the time you had any slight burn-in, it'd be time to upgrade the TV anyway. Do people really keep TVs for 10+ years?

My interpretation of the risk is, if I have the TV on full brightness and leave it on the news for a day by accident, the logo would be burnt in.

If that isn't the case then I'm completely wrong.

You say that, these new TV's seem nice, but I'm having a hard time justifying moving on from my Sony X930E. It's been 6, going on 7 years already.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67295 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 10:05 am to
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My interpretation of the risk is, if I have the TV on full brightness and leave it on the news for a day by accident, the logo would be burnt in.

If that isn't the case then I'm completely wrong.


I leave my TV on ESPN/news all the time and have no burn-in after 5 years.

I have an OLED monitor for my PC which obviously has a ton of static elements - desktop icons, task bar, etc. No burn-in at all

You would have to use your TV in the most extreme use case to manifest any sort of burn-in, and even then, it would take 6-7 years to be noticeable
Posted by WestlakeTiger
San Antonio, Tejas
Member since Feb 2012
9453 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 4:40 am to
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Do people really keep TVs for 10+ years?


I'm still rocking my Sharp LE820 from 2010 good sir.

Tv is rock fricking solid.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37680 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:57 am to
I've always liked Tom's guide, he does not seem to be to Brand centric when it comes to his ratings on most tech.

https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-oled-tvs

In reality, the top end or near tope nd LGs, Samsungs, and Sonys will all be very good.

Here is tech radars guide as well.

https://www.techradar.com/news/best-oled-tvs-our-pick-of-the-best-oled-televisions-you-can-buy-today
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37680 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:59 am to
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at 57 years old i'm probably going to need to upgrade my eyes first before i can enjoy any of this


As a 62 year old, I approve this message.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19994 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:22 am to
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the risk is so infinitesimal that it can be disregarded entirely. The mitigation tech is far more advanced than it was a few years ago.



For light users this is true but you can still find floods or reports of damaged screens on reddit, avsforums, etc. For some moderate to heavy users burn in or burn out of the center of the screen is still happening. Even panels less than 2 years old are still having bad issues.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18250 posts
Posted on 10/20/24 at 9:06 pm to
Go with size and price. You won't notice any difference in the TVs once in your house
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