re: I'm so sick of shitty cell phone battery life

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I don't see where he said anything about Google

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That's why I called it an insinuation.

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Why do you say this insinuates that Google is writing bad code when you yourself admit the control is often in the hands of the phone manufacturer?

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Because it doesn't matter what code LG or whatever manufacturer writes, in the end it runs on top of Google's code. Google's code allows this bad code to run on its platform and do things that hurt the user experience. This is a conscious decision as a tradeoff for also allowing software that improves the experience.

iOS has a ton of 3rd party software running on it just as Android does, so what exactly should it mean when one says "because Apple writes good code" in response to an iPhone user reporting good battery life in a thread about an Android phone with poor battery life? Especially considering he then "elaborated" with something about "minimal processes"?

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I don't claim the iPhone to have any better or worse battery life than Android handsets, but that's a pretty flawed way of researching.

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Yeah, I did say I did a few searches, stated that the results may be misleading, and also to take them for what they're worth. Did I not sufficiently express that I realized there were flaws?

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You're comparing search queries for the name of a phone vs. the name of a phone operating system for one

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I am aware. I think generally people search for iPhone rather than iOS in most cases. And in the case of Android, I tried to cover as many searches as possible by using the OS rather than any of the hundreds of different phone models. Also, I looked at the worldwide results, and since Android phones outnumber iPhones by a lot, I thought for sure there would be more searches for Android vs. iPhone. I did what I could in 2 minutes to satisfy my curiosity.

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not to mention the iPhone has a 10-year legacy as the only name ever used for Apple's mobile phones vs. a variety of names over the years of hot-selling Android-based phones.

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Another reason I went with Android and iPhone rather than a specific Android phone/line or a specific iPhone model.

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Of course you're going to get way more hits for iPhone.

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I haven't seen anything that I would call "way more", they're in the same ballpark in almost all cases. Which, when you look at the global market share, says (to me) that Android phones don't have particularly worse battery problems than iPhones do. And that's all I was getting at.

I carry two phones, my old 5s and a Moto X Pure.

If oyu just let them sit without using them the iPhone will have 85-90% left at the end of a work day. My Moto might be lucky to have 70% left with the same usage pattern.

Use my iPhone heavily like playing a demanding game and it will be dead in not too much longer than an hour. My Moto will last about 2 playing the same game (Pokemon Go).

I'm not sure what you're going on about, I know how hardware and software work.

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at the opportunity cost of having worse battery life. A phone / software provider may allow 3rd party applications to be more accessible to it's core "code"

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That's what I said, it's a design decision, not a question of code quality.

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I'm not sure if you're having a bad day or if you sensed some kind of hostility from my post but I didn't mean it that way.

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Nope, sometimes I guess I just come off as an arse. Sorry about that.

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That's more flawed than you seem to realize, because you're doing search queries in English on an anglo-centric search engine, and the iPhone commands a larger market share in English-speaking communities than it does in other communities, yet you're factoring in worldwide total sales volume.

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Obviously I do not know the details about Google Trends' algorithms or translation details, but I have to assume that they do translate and normalize the data the best they can. Otherwise, like you suggest, the data would be meaningless.

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I know you aren't saying this proves anything, but I don't even think it's worth a curiosity.

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We all have our own interests, I guess.

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You seem to be contradictory here... The first paragraph you acknowledge that Google allows greater access to its platform to 3rd parties, and that this access can result in poor performance... and in the 2nd paragraph you seem to say that iOS has the same burden from 3rd party software?

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I can see how it may seem contradictory, so I probably didn't explain well enough. I realize it is a nuanced point that I'm trying to make.

What I was getting at is 3rd party code runs on both platforms. So, in the context of this thread, when someone says "because Apple writes good code" in response to a claim that an iPhone has good battery life, the obvious takeaway is that the OS/platform is ultimately responsible for battery life. I agree with this, as I think either company could write their OS so that the battery lasts a week, regardless of what 3rd party code is on it. The phones just might not be particularly useful or enjoyable to use.

Does this make sense? With a statement like "because Apple writes good code", there is an implied "as opposed to bad code on the other platform", is there not? And since the statement was framed with the supporting "minimal processes", this also implies that the OS/platform itself has ultimate control (if it wants it). Though that point should be self-evident.


I guess what I'm saying is that "Apple writes good code" is at best a poor choice of words. Some variation of "iOS was written with battery life in mind" or "..as a core feature" would be preferable to implying that Android's code is of poor quality.

I had to buy one of these external batteries and have it on me a good bit of the time. My phone can barely make it through an entire work day with all the radio/podcasts I listen to. No chance of making it through an all day tailgating kind of day. Note 5 FWIW.

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Dude buy a new phone already

i have an iPhone 6. as of right now its not taking a charge.

i did a soft reset and that didn't help.

then i tried my original cable that came with the phone. I got a new for Christmas and haven't had problems until today.

still nothing.

then I tried charging through a usb port from my computer.. nothing.

i even took a tooth pick and got a little debris out of the port on my phone but that didn't work.

i think its a software issue.

any other ideas?

I got the phone in June so its under warranty but I doubt its the battery. I really don't use my phone THAT much.

I charge my four year old iPhone 5 three days / week. So far, the battery is hanging in there.

Nokia is bringing back the 3310: LINK

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I feel you man. My Nexus 6P ended up being useless because of the battery life. It would also turn off if it said I had anywhere from 20-30% left

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Yep, my Nexus 6P is going the same route. I feel like every phone I've ever had, around the 1 year mark of owning it, the battery goes to shite, and my 6P just started doing the same.

Coworker and I were in an all day retreat type thing at work. He had whatever the latest iPhone is, we used our phones basically the same amount of time during the day. When we left, he was at 74%, and I was at 27%. Very annoying.

Not sure what else to do.