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Best way to get Wi-Fi in a metal shop from my house.

Posted on 10/10/22 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Biggins
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 8:44 pm
It’s about 10 yards from my house
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:04 pm to
Can’t be done. Literally impossible.
Posted by ColdDuck
BR via da Parish
Member since Sep 2006
2892 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:14 pm to
Put your router closer to that side of your house. 10 yards ain’t nothing. Metal doesn’t matter. It is actually worse with Sheetrock since it sucks up the signal since it is water based. Bounces off of metal.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3892 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:20 pm to
Run an Ethernet cable, or get a repeater. Could get one that receives outside and rebroadcast the signal I side the building.

It’s surprising how little service penetrates through those metal buildings.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:53 pm to
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Metal doesn’t matter. It is actually worse with Sheetrock since it sucks up the signal since it is water based. Bounces off of metal.
Can't tell if serious
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175540 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:55 pm to
You need equipment similar to a WISP

Something like this to transmit the signal, the antenna to receive it and it is hardwired to the interior router to get the signal indoor to your shop

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ETA: I Just saw the 10 yards thing. Do you have any windows in the shop facing the house? If so get a mesh system and put one of the repeaters by the shop window.
This post was edited on 10/10/22 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 10/10/22 at 9:58 pm to
The absolute best way is to run a cable, probably underground if there isn't a shared wall, roof, or other connecting structure. That may be cost prohibitive.

The next best way is with outdoor-rated wireless devices on both the house and building. This may be done either via point-to-point wireless (works as an invisible cable) or via "mesh" wifi devices. Since the distance is so short, I would probably recommend mesh devices since they would have the added benefit of providing strong wifi outside between the buildings as well as "piping" the signal via a cable from the exterior of the metal shop to the interior.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37825 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

quote:

Metal doesn’t matter. It is actually worse with Sheetrock since it sucks up the signal since it is water based. Bounces off of metal.

Can't tell if serious



The things you read on here
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 12:23 pm to
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mesh system


Theres your answer
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
25663 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:18 pm to
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mesh system


Theres your answer


I had a garage about 10 yards from my brick house in Indiana. I had a Google hockey puck system for a while, and then when one of the pucks went out, I switched to Orbi. I put the modem and the router in the garage near the wall closest to the house and put the satellite in the center of the house. Worked great. My backyard had the best wifi connection in the area.

This was in Indiana. Freezing temperatures, snow, rain, and 100+ temps didn't bother my modem or router sitting in the garage.
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
5806 posts
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:50 pm to
I'd run a cable and plug a mesh system in out there. Like 3 pucks total, 2 in the house, one out in the shop.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4915 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:38 am to
Does the shop have an electrical outlet because if so I'd just plug in a powerline adapter and call it a day.
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
4584 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:28 pm to
My metal shop is about 20 yards from my house with a garage in between the house and shop. I have an Orbi mesh system. 1 router and 2 mesh units. In the house I have the router and one mesh unit. I put the other mesh unit by the only window in my shop. I never have any connection issues and get really fast speeds out there. I have the Orbi 750 series.

Before this, I had google wifi with 6 pucks. 4 in the house, 1 in the garage, and one in the shop. It worked but I had connection issues and wasn't nearly as fast.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1282 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 11:51 am to
TP link CPE 510, or CPE 210.

Need two, one to send from house and one to receive on shed, ethernet from shed CPE to cheap router inside shed. CPE are only around 50/per, and can get a router for around 20

This post was edited on 10/17/22 at 11:53 am
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10013 posts
Posted on 10/17/22 at 9:05 pm to
It kinda depends on what the bandwidth needs of your shop are. If you're good with <10Mb (for production equipment, which is intermittent connectivity based) you can do wireless-wireless at the edge of the building. Depending on how far your closest access point is from the metal shop, you could be in an absolute black hole, or you may get intermittent connectivity.

You can use something like this to create the bridge relatively cheaply. It's probably overpowered for what you're doing in the shop, but it's also not a bank breaker.

802.11 (a/b/g, the slowest of the protocols) has a rule of thumb that is the "three wall rule." Three layers of drywall, and signal drops off. You always have to look for things in between your access point and your endpoints (this includes plaster/lathe walls, drywall, etc.) There are immutable laws of physics that you can't fix with wishes... The 2.4Ghz band is *exactly* blocked by normal chain link fences, because the wavelength of 2.4ghz is *exactly* the wavelength blocked by said chainlink fence. On 5Ghz, this is not as significant of an issue, but a ton of IoT equipment (sprinkler controllers, lights, garage controllers, etc.) only connects on 2.4.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1413 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 11:33 am to
I did this for my dad's shop. Ran an ethernet cable below ground from their modem in the house, and hooked it to an access point in his shop. Simple task.
Posted by Biggins
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 5:45 pm to
I do have a windo
Posted by Biggins
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 5:53 pm to
Yes I do have electricity in kitchen/ shop. I’m totally ignorant on Wi-Fi. So you think this will work?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10013 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:56 pm to
Yeah, 10 yards is nothing through windows *if* the antennae are placed at windows "facing" each other. However, if you put one puck in your living room 20 feet from the window, and try to put another puck in the shop window, that may not work so well.

Are you trying to watch 4K Hulu in your shop, or what?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28997 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:44 pm to
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Yes I do have electricity in kitchen/ shop. I’m totally ignorant on Wi-Fi. So you think this will work?
Assuming you're asking about the powerline adapters... How well they work will depend on your wiring. It requires two devices, one in the shop and one in the main house where the internet is. The powerline devices work best if they're on the same circuit. They will probably work but more slowly on two different circuits. They might work but even slower if plugged into different circuits on different legs. And if your shop has its own meter then they won't work at all.
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