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Barn is 350' from house, how to get a wifi signal?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:27 am
My barn is approx 350 - 360' away from my house and I am looking to get a wifi signal inside the barn for various reasons. Any idea? What do i need to purchase? Thx
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:08 am to jpcajun
Two of these. One connects to your router via ethernet and if you can see the barn from inside your house through a window, you can mount it somewhere unobtrusive. I have mine mounted on the side of a built-in bookshelf that faces a corner so nobody notices it.
The second one goes on the outside of your barn (just need power.
i think the range is up to 5 miles so you should be covered.
$65
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:09 am to jpcajun
Do you have a clear line of sight from your house to the barn? Ubiquiti powerbeams are good options if you have a clear LOS
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:20 am to jpcajun
Beam it (what the other two responses have been) or trench it and run an ethernet cable that entire length. Those are your choices. Going with the Ubiquiti is going to be the fastest setup and most cost-effective way to go (unless you just happen to have a trencher and a few hundred feet of Cat 6 and conduit lying around 
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)Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:29 am to Bard
quote:
Beam it (what the other two responses have been) or trench it and run an ethernet cable that entire length. Those are your choices. Going with the Ubiquiti is going to be the fastest setup and most cost-effective way to go (unless you just happen to have a trencher and a few hundred feet of Cat 6 and conduit lying around )
I know your kidding about ethernet but you would be beyond the distance limitations of that cable. So the cheap solution is the wireless bridge like suggested or bury some fiber. Go the wireless bridge route.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:30 am to Bard
quote:
Going with the Ubiquiti is going to be the fastest setup and most cost-effective way to go
gigabyte nanobeams are fricking fast as hell. no reason to hardwire your barn, ever.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 11:04 am to CAD703X
CAD has the right solution. Here's a two pack of the new nanobeams:
NanoBeam NBE-5AC-Gen2
You'll also need an access point for the barn:
Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite
We are assuming you have line of site between the house and the barn. And the barn has power.
NanoBeam NBE-5AC-Gen2
You'll also need an access point for the barn:
Ubiquiti Unifi Ap-AC Lite
We are assuming you have line of site between the house and the barn. And the barn has power.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:31 pm to broadhead
quote:it would work with no issue at the distance he proposes. Doesn’t mean he should do it but it will definitely work fine.
I know your kidding about ethernet but you would be beyond the distance limitations of that cable.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:42 pm to TAMU-93
Yes, barn has powers and a clear line of sight
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:35 pm to diat150
quote:
it would work with no issue at the distance he proposes. Doesn’t mean he should do it but it will definitely work fine.
350' is somewhat marginal for CAT 6 at least from my experience .
I recently ran 350-360 feet of CAT 6 underground for a POE camera and it would not work until I put an inline booster fwiw.
Maybe an LAN connection will work further than POE
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:42 pm to jennyjones
quote:Yeah that is slightly further than spec range for poe. It might work with quality cable of sufficient gauge, but I wouldn't trust it to be reliable.
I recently ran 350-360 feet of CAT 6 underground for a POE camera and it would not work until I put an inline booster fwiw.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:36 pm to CAD703X
My brother has his music studio about 150' behind his house and since musicians are live streaming shows now, he discovered how poor using your phone is as a hotspot for high bandwidth things like video and music. I had him buy enough cat5 to reach out there and install a wireless access point and that is working. But he is rolling up the cat5 when not using it and so not that convenient. Trenching would be tough as he has a swimming pool and concrete deck between the studio and house. Would the Ubiquiti or Beam bandwidth be robust enough for live streaming?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:58 pm to Zappas Stache
absolutely.
keep in mind if he attaches a $10 switch to the beam connected to his pool house he's effectively hard-wired at gigabit speed.
the gig nano beam is the shite. the weakest link would be the access point wifi in the pool house so i would put a 5 or 10 port switch in there along w/ the access point and hardwire everything he can.
the beam signal is rock solid. the app is super easy to use and you can see in real time on phone when you get the 2 disks dialed in.
keep in mind if he attaches a $10 switch to the beam connected to his pool house he's effectively hard-wired at gigabit speed.
the gig nano beam is the shite. the weakest link would be the access point wifi in the pool house so i would put a 5 or 10 port switch in there along w/ the access point and hardwire everything he can.
the beam signal is rock solid. the app is super easy to use and you can see in real time on phone when you get the 2 disks dialed in.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:26 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Yeah that is slightly further than spec range for poe. It might work with quality cable of sufficient gauge, but I wouldn't trust it to be reliable.
I used high quality underground rated solid copper cable in conduit and figured it would work, but it didnt. (I had to run mine through an attic, down a hill and under a dock, so CAT 6 was my only realistic choice) The Veracity passive extender I used saved the day and works like a fricking champ luckily.
To the previous posters' points about renting a trencher and running conduit- trust me it is a pain in the arse project and will not be cheaper than the beams when all is said and done especially factoring in your time.
Beams would be a no brainer in this situation with not needing POE.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 1:16 am to jennyjones
quote:Good to know that the specs are pretty damned accurate. Might save some of us a lot of work in the future.
I used high quality underground rated solid copper cable in conduit and figured it would work, but it didnt.
quote:Also good to know.
The Veracity passive extender I used saved the day and works like a fricking champ luckily.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 1:33 am to Zappas Stache
quote:I'm going to second everything CAD said about these. I've installed a few sets of nanobeams, and they've been rock solid. They're easy to install, easy to link up, and then you can forget about them.
Would the Ubiquiti or Beam bandwidth be robust enough for live streaming?
They are plenty fast enough for streaming video, good enough for at least a dozen simultaneous 4k streams. Latency is negligible, on par with hard wire. And they're good for a few miles, so 150' is nothing.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:26 am to diat150
quote:
it would work with no issue at the distance he proposes. Doesn’t mean he should do it but it will definitely work fine.
Max distance on Cat6 is ~328 feet. If he was absolutely set on running a line out there he would need to run fiber and convert. It could be done with Cat6 but it would need more than just dropping the cable in the trench and plugging it into switches on either end.
I didn't think anyone would take me seriously on that comment.
If I had to run a cable over the 100m limit of Cat6 I would just pony up for fiber and some converters.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 8:18 pm to Bard
It will still work. 100 meters is the max distance for the spec. That doesn’t mean it won’t work for a consumer. I’ve read people doing over 450 foot runs.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:21 pm to jennyjones
quote:
Maybe an LAN connection will work further than POE
Absolutely.
I've run some 500+' for residential purposes, the customer always knowing the likelyhood of it being flawless is not high.
Power is always your distance limitation on a 26 gauge wire.
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