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ATT Fiber, Upgrade to BGW320?

Posted on 5/27/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 1:42 pm
Im having issues with my Fiber setup with the 5236 and have a tech coming out to resolve the issue. They say it is an ONT issue. I also see there now is a new router, BGW320. This can use the ONT but also has an onboard ONT.

But i read on reddit that the 320 now negates the ability to to the ubiquity gate way bypass. Should i no upgrade if im planning on getting ubiquity gear?
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Vrai
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
3891 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 2:28 pm to
Dont do it
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:13 pm to
Why.... lets discuss it
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:40 pm to
I found these instructions for configuring the BGW320 with a UDM-P. Pretty convoluted.

I prefer a dumb box to connect me to the internet, piling in multiple functions just makes things harder.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1419 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:56 pm to
The BGW320 supports IP Passthrogh which is which is what I do with my BGW210 and Ubiquiti USG.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

The BGW320 supports IP Passthrogh which is which is what I do with my BGW210 and Ubiquiti USG.
Per "expert" JefferMC on the ATT forums:
quote:

Based on reports from users on these forums: When you turn on IP Passthrough to a router, it appears that the connection from the Router to the Gateway is slowed down such that traffic doesn't flow as fast as either one is capable of. This is only noticeable for Fiber service, if you're below 200 Mbps, there doesn't seem to be a drop off (e.g. for my VDSL2 connection, it doesn't hurt at all).

LINK

Don't know exactly how much it slows speeds, but it might be a consideration for some.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1419 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Don't know exactly how much it slows speeds, but it might be a consideration for some.


Yep mine is slow is in IP passthrough

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 12:36 am to
Hah! I guess they've fixed whatever the issue was.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89758 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 8:05 am to
I have been reading complaints that the wifi distance on the 320 is worse. If you have going to put this thing in bridge mode and use anther wifi solution I guess that does not matter.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 8:13 am to
quote:

I have been reading complaints that the wifi distance on the 320 is worse


The Wifi AP in any provided router is one of the first things I disable. It's not that I don't trust it, well yeah it really is.

Stored passwords on a perimeter device that control interior access is just not something I'm good with. Not because I'm a security nut or paranoid, well yeah it is.......

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 5/28/21 at 9:33 pm to
Just had fiber installed and have a BGW320-500 hooked up. Can't speak to passthrough performance, but I'm consistently getting 1250+ down and 1100+ up, which is fun.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:20 pm to
At one point ip passthrough did reduce speeds to about half. But I do believe that has been fixed.

I want Vrai to come back and talk. If I don't get the 320 I'm going to to the setup where you bypass the router. But it is pretty involved.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Just had fiber installed and have a BGW320-500 hooked up. Can't speak to passthrough performance, but I'm consistently getting 1250+ down and 1100+ up, which is fun.


Which speed test are you using for those speeds? are you on the 1Gbps plan or the 2.5Gbps?
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5173 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I have been reading complaints that the wifi distance on the 320 is worse.


Raises hand

ATT BGW210 -> BGW320 = lost Wifi range
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 6/1/21 at 2:52 pm to
i missed your thread. im still debating on what to do. about to pull the trigger on the UI gear one way or the other.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:37 am to
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Which speed test are you using for those speeds? are you on the 1Gbps plan or the 2.5Gbps?


The Windows app version of SPEEDTEST (speedtest.net). And 1Gbps down/up.

Just ran it again and got this result before posting:

LINK

ETA: Just in case there is any confusion because I wasn't clear, this is jacked straight from the wall to the gateway, gateway to my mobo's 2.5G nic. I don't feel like going grab a laptop which would likely have a better antenna, but my phone just pulled 729 down and 703 up over wifi.

ETA2: Not knowing was irking me. Surface Pro 7 on battery just pulled 813 down and 867 up.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17275 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

The BGW320 supports IP Passthrogh which is which is what I do with my BGW210 and Ubiquiti USG.
I have the BGW210 with the 1gb plan, have been poking around but couldn't find the IP Passthrough option.

At 98eagle's recommendation I picked up the RockSpace Mesh system, but I can't seem to get much more than 100-300mb speeds at any of the nodes, despite consistently getting 950-990mb at the gateway. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1419 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

I have the BGW210 with the 1gb plan, have been poking around but couldn't find the IP Passthrough option.


Firewall -> IP Passthrough


Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

At 98eagle's recommendation I picked up the RockSpace Mesh system, but I can't seem to get much more than 100-300mb speeds at any of the nodes
Honestly that's more than I thought you'd get out of those. Lots of reports of people not getting more than ~50mbps. I would probably call it good enough for the price and just cross your fingers that they last a while.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:16 am to
Kork, the Wifi 6 LRs came in stock yesterday, so i pulled the trigger. Turns out the UDMPro was out of stock, but ccame in stock later in the afternoon. So i have all the gear coming in.

Right now i have the 5268ac which doesnt have the ip pass through feature but it does have DMZ+. Right now thats how i have it set up with an ORBI mesh system running.

Do you think i should stick with the 5268ac or get a bwg210? I dont know if i want to bypass it yet. but i havent ruled that out. My att connecting has been spotty lately and they keep saying it is upstream of me and they fixed it but doesnt ever seem it is fixed.
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