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Apple!!!Damn you. How to get old CDs on a new device.

Posted on 12/26/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27403 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 5:27 pm
Christmas present for me. A nice new ipad. I have an iPhone XR that has all my old stuff from way back on it.

Went al the way to Apple Tech Support who told me, "can't do it."

Basically if it is not purchased the itunes or now Apple Music or whichever platform Apple will use it can't be done. These are old CDs. The laptop that I used that had Apple Music was Windows based and is old so it is too buggy and well, old, to do what I want if it will do anything.

You degenerates have to be able to help me out.

Thanks in advance.


IB4 Old man, or Boomer (not that old) comments.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 6:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16272 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 6:42 pm to
Do you have a PC or Mac, you can do all this on a computer with itunes. I don't think you talked to tech support, that or the entire conversation you had with them is a lot more than you explained.
Posted by STBTigerr
Mandeville/New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
5355 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 7:02 pm to
Guessing you didn’t back up the music files from the old PC on an external hard drive or in the cloud somewhere?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
12326 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 1:04 am to
You looked at any third party software to recreate your iTunes database?

Did such a long time ago with an aging and no longer supported iPod using a product called CopyTrans. Not sure if this would work on an iPhone; however this software simply treated the iPod as a external hard drive. So once cabled up to a PC the software read and rebuilt a database using the appropriate format. It handled all the metadata... file labeling, header info, and matching up art work (album covers). There were several different vendors/options at the time, CopyTrans was just one, and at $19.99 (back then) it as well worth the cost.

You then imported this back into a new version of iTunes as pre-exsisting external music files.

(eta: software name)
This post was edited on 12/27/20 at 1:18 am
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
739 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 2:05 pm to
You aren’t really speaking English so it’s hard to determine what you are trying to do. If I understand you right, you have old music that apple doesn’t have in their library and you want them across all of your devices. If that’s it then you need iTunes Match, it’s $25 a year and allows you to stream all of your music even if apple doesn’t have it in their database.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 12/27/20 at 10:43 pm to
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you need iTunes Match, it’s $25 a year and allows you to stream all of your music even if apple doesn’t have it in their database.


Pay apple $25/year so I can listen to my own fricking music on all my own stupid fricking apple devices?

HARD PASS
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/27/20 at 11:58 pm to
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Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28948 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 8:08 am to
Yet another reason to hate on Apple. The lack of and SD card slot is a hard stop for me.

I have all of my music (80 GB worth) on an SD card that I can 1) Freely Copy, 2) keep backed up on a HD) and 3) Transfer from device to device anytime I want to.

This post was edited on 12/28/20 at 8:09 am
Posted by ArkLaTexTiger
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
2538 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 9:35 am to
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I have all of my music (80 GB worth) on an SD card that I can 1) Freely Copy, 2) keep backed up on a HD) and 3) Transfer from device to device anytime I want to.
But Apple guarantees compatibility...
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10282 posts
Posted on 12/28/20 at 5:45 pm to
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Pay apple $25/year so I can listen to my own fricking music on all my own stupid fricking apple devices?

HARD PASS


I had to triple check that you didn’t start this thread
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:18 am to
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, I'm tired of buying HDDs for my Plex server and I know you have one. Can you give me SFTP access or something for your Plex server so I can upload unlimited media to it? I mean it's my own fricking media and I want to listen to it on my own devices so don't balk at the idea


Wow. That's the most cringey "try hard" response I think I've seen.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:27 am to
I get plex for $5 month from my IPTV provider. It's ridiculously simple to get.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16563 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:01 pm to
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CopyTrans
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16563 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:06 pm to
You can always plug said device into a computer and pull all the music off by viewing hidden folders. They will be in a weird format and organized strangely, but it'll all be there.

I haven't dealt with newer apple products, but this definitely works on older stuff.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
7994 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:01 pm to
We have always been able to sync music from old CDs. Without paying extra for something like Match it manually syncs with computer and devices. Usually wired first and then wirelessly over Wifi.

Not sure if your windows laptop supports current or compatible versions of Apple software to do it. I am not really sure on what Apple is doing with windows these days. It used to work but i do remember they were slow to update software for windows more recently and doubt they tried to make it compatible with older windows computers when they did.

If you can copy the music files from older CDs to a portable drive and copy to a fairly recent Mac then import into Music it should then be do sync music to devices plus you will have backed up music if laptop getting old. You might have to authorize that computer to use your Apple ID so if someone elses you might ask if a separate login/profile can be created and then deauthorize it and delete login. I haven’t tried to use someone else’s Mac in a while, so it may be different now. If it still works similarly and if devices can hold all of the songs it’s just a one sync with each of your devices to get older music already ripped onto them.

Amazon Music or other services might also be able to have music uploaded from computer once and then downloaded to devices. You would just have to use their app on your devices to listen and not Apple Music. If you upload music files to iCloud Drive from computer you can listen on devices using files app like any media file but can’t import into Music (and Files not a true media app).


If you have music on iPhone and want to or need to bypass getting music off your computer without paying extra it may be possible but would still have to use a compatible computer with an up to date version of Apple’s music to get music from iPhone first before adding/syncing to ipad without paying match service, but copying ripped music from older ios device to newer computer was always been a little buggy for me. For me it might have been dealing with different Apple IDs in household or even for myself at the time and having back ups just made it easier and quicker to add music to computer instead of figuring out for sure what was happening with syncing. It’s also possible it’s no longer supported at all as i stopped relying on it a while back.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 6:52 pm to


The world gets worse every year.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16563 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 7:22 pm to
The obsession with Apple and their software/products is strong

Treat it like a harddrive, it is so much easier that way!
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24532 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 2:50 pm to
Try using handbreak to rip the old cds to mp4s. Then just import them into your music library.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86709 posts
Posted on 1/11/21 at 3:26 pm to
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Try using handbreak to rip the old cds to mp4s. Then just import them into your music library.
EAC if you use a PC.

rip them all as lossless FLAC and toss the CDs in a box in your attic in case the music police ever break down your door and try to claim you pirated them.

this is the only problem with giving away/selling your old CDs after ripping them...you can't prove you ever owned them to start with.
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