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re: World Cup Draw - 4/1/22 - Probabilities of each USMNT Scenario
Posted on 4/1/22 at 1:57 pm to Billy Mays
Posted on 4/1/22 at 1:57 pm to Billy Mays
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Sleep on Iran at your own peril. Almost got out of their group last WC that had Spain and Portugal in it.
We're better than Iran, full stop.
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The group is definitely a Top 4 overall group in terms of even quality, IMO.
Yeah, largely because England and the USA are in it.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:03 pm to Broski
If we can draw with England, that would be huge
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
I just watched the highlights of USA England 2010. I'd rather the WC be in Antarctica than back in South Africa. I just cannot comprehend why someone would blow on those fricking vuvuzelas for 2 straight hours. I can't even imagine what that would look like sitting next to someone doing it.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:05 pm to WicKed WayZ
Good thing about getting Ukraine/Wales/Scotland in the first match is that our lack of experience won't come into play because this will be the first World Cup for any players from those countries too.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:07 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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Im hoping they can come out like world beaters and steal a point or 2 in their first two games, and then back down to earth after that.
That's what I'm hoping - they come out inspired playing in their home region. Scotland and Wales can definitely give England trouble as demonstrated lately.
Our game vs Iran is one of the most important of the group. If England is somehow sitting on 6 points going into their final game, we probably will need a win vs Iran to advance.
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:19 pm to Billy Mays
Dammit, Gregg
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Jeff Carlisle @JeffreyCarlisle
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Gregg Berhalter says he'll bring in the full #usmnt for the Nations League games in June, citing the need to maximize time together.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:21 pm to Billy Mays
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That's what I'm hoping - they come out inspired playing in their home region. Scotland and Wales can definitely give England trouble as demonstrated lately.
Our game vs Iran is one of the most important of the group. If England is somehow sitting on 6 points going into their final game, we probably will need a win vs Iran to advance.
Hopefully England is the "Oklahoma football" of this Cup. I just looked @ their qualifiers, and they had an astonishingly easy Group.
Hoping they come into the tourney in November extremely overconfident...
- Average Ranking of their opponents were: 99.2
- Average Rankings of their top 3 Group opp: 44
(*Poland; 26, Hungry; 40, Albania; 66)
In comparison to CONCACAF Hex & US Opponents:
- USA opponent Average Ranking: 51.3
- USA top 3 Opponents Avg Ranking: 26
(Mex; 9, Costa; 31, Canada; 38)
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:24 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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Hopefully England is the "Oklahoma football" of this Cup. I just looked @ their qualifiers, and they had an astonishingly easy Group.
Hoping they come into the tourney in November extremely overconfident...
- Average Ranking of their opponents were: 99.2
- Average Rankings of their top 3 Group opp: 44
(*Poland; 26, Hungry; 40, Albania; 66)
In comparison to CONCACAF Hex & US Opponents:
- USA opponent Average Ranking: 51.3
- USA top 3 Opponents Avg Ranking: 26
(Mex; 9, Costa; 31, Canada; 38)
Good point - and we all know Canada is more of a Top 20 side currently.
Speaking of Canada, would not be shocked if they get a result against Belgium. That group is stacked.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:27 pm to bkPoseidon
So, by average FIFA rankings:
A: 32
B: 15/20/14
C: 22
D: 29/23/18
E: 18/36
F: 20
G: 19
H: 28
Assuming the favorites win the playoffs, the groups would be (from hardest to easiest): B, D, E, G, F, C, H, A.
So a Wales win makes ours the Group of Death. Let’s go Scotland!
A: 32
B: 15/20/14
C: 22
D: 29/23/18
E: 18/36
F: 20
G: 19
H: 28
Assuming the favorites win the playoffs, the groups would be (from hardest to easiest): B, D, E, G, F, C, H, A.
So a Wales win makes ours the Group of Death. Let’s go Scotland!
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:31 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
Rankings don’t mean shite. Some teams are playing better than others. Canada in the 30’s and Mexico at 9. Lol
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:32 pm to SEC. 593
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UAE can't play with Saudi and Peru can't play with Argentina.
Thanks. I don’t think Saudi had been selected but I didn’t realize the AFC winner had to play Peru, so that does make sense.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:37 pm to RockChalkTiger
I'm new here/ignorant on this but will the England WC team be similar or the same to last year's EURO 2020 squad?
With Kane, Sterling, Grealish, etc.?
With Kane, Sterling, Grealish, etc.?
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:40 pm to Cole Beer
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I'm new here/ignorant on this but will the England WC team be similar or the same to last year's EURO 2020 squad?
With Kane, Sterling, Grealish, etc.?
Yes
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:41 pm to Cole Beer
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'm new here/ignorant on this but will the England WC team be similar or the same to last year's EURO 2020 squad?
With Kane, Sterling, Grealish, etc.?
It should be fairly similar. But with this world cup being in the winter, next Fall could have a big effect on who makes national teams. With it being mid-season for most domestic leagues, who knows who will be hot and who may be injured.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:42 pm to lsuson
I don't get the urge to post the FIFA rankings - I know everyone does it, but it's misleading.
Groups E (Spain, Germany, Japan) F (Belgium, Croatia, Canada) and G (Brazil, Swiss, and Serbia) are really tough and can be considered Group of Death material.
I would say our group is 4th hardest, but obviously we are splitting hairs. Even a Group like H (Portugal, Uruguay, South Korea, Ghana as the 4) is well-balanced.
Groups E (Spain, Germany, Japan) F (Belgium, Croatia, Canada) and G (Brazil, Swiss, and Serbia) are really tough and can be considered Group of Death material.
I would say our group is 4th hardest, but obviously we are splitting hairs. Even a Group like H (Portugal, Uruguay, South Korea, Ghana as the 4) is well-balanced.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:42 pm to Broski
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Matthew Doyle @MattDoyle76
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One thing to consider is that the #USMNT won more international tournaments in 2021 than England have won in their entire existence.
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:45 pm to Broski
Average age? Are these teams good on set pieces?
Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:48 pm to RollTide4Ever
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scuffed @scuffedpod
1m
Pulisic said the first person he heard from after the draw was Mason Mount
Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:38 pm to Broski
You know England is beating off like they did in 2010 over this draw.
We got as good of a draw as we could have hoped for.

We got as good of a draw as we could have hoped for.

Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:40 pm to Broski
I love that we play on the first day. We don't have to wait.
Even like 2010 when we played on the second day.
Even like 2010 when we played on the second day.
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