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re: Sunil Gulati: "Perception of US affecting WC bid"
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:20 pm to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:20 pm to Keys Open Doors
I didn't say it's fair, or right, or that other countries don't have bigger issues. But it's reality.
The US is held to a much higher standard than Morocco is
The US is held to a much higher standard than Morocco is
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 10:21 pm
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Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
And Putin is a revered leader? I see what you are saying, and I get that Trump is controversial, but he won’t even be president in 2026, and Putin is going to be in charge of Russia this summer.
This is a bullshite move by Sunil, especially when he won’t be getting re-elected as USSF President. Sounds like he’s trying to tank our chances so his successor gets the blame.
This is a bullshite move by Sunil, especially when he won’t be getting re-elected as USSF President. Sounds like he’s trying to tank our chances so his successor gets the blame.
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It's not in anyone's incentive to have Morocco host. It's the embodiment of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
A Morocco world cup would get so much less money for FIFA than one in the US/Mexico/Canada, and as we all know, FIFA is about one thing, getting money.
Qatar circumvented the process as did Russia, with blatant bribes. I would be amazed if Morocco had the same ability to do that.
I fully believe that Gulati is saying this in order to look like a hero when the committee decides to give the US the world cup.
A Morocco world cup would get so much less money for FIFA than one in the US/Mexico/Canada, and as we all know, FIFA is about one thing, getting money.
Qatar circumvented the process as did Russia, with blatant bribes. I would be amazed if Morocco had the same ability to do that.
I fully believe that Gulati is saying this in order to look like a hero when the committee decides to give the US the world cup.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:11 am to Draconian Sanctions
you’re trying too hard to defend your stance.
this year the world cup is being held in a country run by Vladamir Putin. in 2022 it’s being held in a country who doesn’t even attempt to hide the fact that they operate state sponsored slavery. to try and equate that to a current US President who won’t even be in power when the proposed world cup would take place is laughable. the president could be a cardboard box with a speaker system inside set to play anti-semitic rhetoric on loop and it still wouldn’t compare
this year the world cup is being held in a country run by Vladamir Putin. in 2022 it’s being held in a country who doesn’t even attempt to hide the fact that they operate state sponsored slavery. to try and equate that to a current US President who won’t even be in power when the proposed world cup would take place is laughable. the president could be a cardboard box with a speaker system inside set to play anti-semitic rhetoric on loop and it still wouldn’t compare
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:03 am to WinnPtiger
If they were bidding today I think Russia would have a much harder time.
Again it's much more about perception than who is or isn't a bad actor
Again it's much more about perception than who is or isn't a bad actor
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
Piss off. Your opinion is irrelevant
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:04 am to Draconian Sanctions
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And he isn't making me shite, what I make I'm making myself.
Fair, I should have phrased it some of the money he's not stealing from you.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:23 am to DFWAggie09
bahahaha. We might be the least racist country out there. Tell me the last time an american sports fan threw fricking bananas at a player?
The italians dont even like their own black players.
The italians dont even like their own black players.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:17 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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That's why the universally beloved Barack Obama landed the 2016 Olympics for Chicago.
Barack Obama was president for 8 months when the 2016 Olympics were awarded. He had much bigger fish to fry.
And on another theme in this thread, nobody has tried to say that Russia or Qatar or Morocco or Brazil have better records of human rights, or more freedom. That these countries "deserve" the WC or Olympics or whatever more than the U.S.
The argument is that Donald J. Trump is such a douchenozzle, and has alienated just about every country that calls us friend (Who the hell picks a fight with Australia?), while cozying up to the likes of Putin and Duterte, that most voters will vote for Morocco out of spite.
I think it's a plausible argument. Do you really think Australia or Great Britain, will vote for the USA?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:46 pm to LuckySo-n-So
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Barack Obama was president for 8 months when the 2016 Olympics were awarded. He had much bigger fish to fry.
That is a fricking terrible defense of Obama... and even if I grant you that, what about the fact that Obama didn't land 2022 World Cup?
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The argument is that Donald J. Trump is such a douchenozzle, and has alienated just about every country that calls us friend (Who the hell picks a fight with Australia?),
Yeah, and the Qatari leadership weren't douches with their slavery and such.
We get it, you don't like Trump, he's not my favorite person either, but if we don't get the bid, it will have very little to do with him and it's fricking trashy as frick that Sunil is already trying to push that narrative.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:04 pm to Broski
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That is a fricking terrible defense of Obama
It's as good a defense as any. The favorites were always Rio and Madrid or Barcelona (can't remember which).
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what about the fact that Obama didn't land 2022 World Cup?
Nobody but Qatar was going to land that bid. We all know why.
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Yeah, and the Qatari leadership weren't douches with their slavery and such.
Like I said, Qatar was going to win that bid regardless of Human Rights violations, or freedom, or weather, or facilities.
If the USA/Mexico/Canada bid is successful, it will be in spite of Trump, not because of him. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Morocco get the bid.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 12:33 am to LuckySo-n-So
So when Qatar got it, it's because it's rigged.
If Morroco gets it, it's not because it's rigged, it's all Trump.
People like you, who blame Trump for everything, are exactly why Trump is president right now. Trump deserves blame for a lot of shite, not the World Cup bid.
If Morroco gets it, it's not because it's rigged, it's all Trump.
People like you, who blame Trump for everything, are exactly why Trump is president right now. Trump deserves blame for a lot of shite, not the World Cup bid.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 8:24 pm to LuckySo-n-So
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I think it's a plausible argument. Do you really think Australia or Great Britain, will vote for the USA?
You mean the Great Britain that voted to split from the EU largely for the same reasons Trump was elected President?
Just because there are a bunch of blowhards from those countries, doesn't mean their opinions are shared throughout the country as recent elections have shown.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 9:11 am to DFWAggie09
Don't believe the hype about Trump and the hate.
The only ones you hear from are the small, vocal progressives around the world. 99% around the world don't give 2 shits.
And giving Russia and Qatar the bids, nullifies anything this dumbshit has to say.
The only ones you hear from are the small, vocal progressives around the world. 99% around the world don't give 2 shits.
And giving Russia and Qatar the bids, nullifies anything this dumbshit has to say.
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