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re: Pochettino Resign/Re-Sign?

Posted on 8/1/26 at 9:29 am to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 9:29 am to
I like what he’s doing. Run it back
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:10 am to
Poch returning officially official. Re-signed thru 2030.
Posted by Citica8
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:15 am to
Posted by bamabenny
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:19 am to
Just don’t see us holding on to him for a full cycle. Would love to be wrong though.
Posted by Citica8
Louisiana
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:27 am to
From the full article
quote:

STAFF WILL HAVE EXPANDED IMPACT ON TECHNICAL AREAS OF U.S. SOCCER

With this new commitment, he and the coaching staff will also advise and support U.S. Soccer on the broader development of the full National Team pathway, youth soccer, coaching education, professional league collaboration and other technical facets across the soccer community.
I feel better already.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:36 am to
I think there was some concern with a national team position not keeping him occupied enough day-to-day, hopefully this kind of stuff keeps him engaged.

He could stay busy every day the next four years just fixing the youth system
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:38 am to
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He could stay busy every day the next four years just fixing the youth system



He would have to live in America, specifically Atlanta, to do that though.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:58 am to
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This appointment and broader investment in the U.S. Men’s National Team program is being supported in significant part by a philanthropic leadership gift from Kenneth C. Griffin, Founder and CEO of Citadel and Founder of Griffin Catalyst. Additional support has been provided by Scott Goodwin, Adam Freede, and several commercial partners.


I know he was bankrolled by boosters last time, but what exactly do they do with our World Cup money (besides give half to the women) that we can't pay the coach out of their own coffers?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:27 am to
The gift gives them leeway to pay him more than the women’s coach, I’m convinced. “It’s a gift, we aren’t paying him more.” They could still pay for him because they’ve got hundreds of millions in the bank.
Posted by Alyosha
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:32 am to
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Kenneth C. Griffin, Founder and CEO of Citadel and Founder of Griffin Catalyst

Don’t tell Roaring Kitty
Posted by Citica8
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:12 am to
It is almost worded like there is a lot more of an emphasis on his "staff" than himself in the day to day, but he's has to at minimum get a condo in Buckhead or wherever all of the pro athletes live
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:45 am to
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We ought to produce a higher standard than we seem capable of. It’s perplexing.


I think we as a country still need to realize we aren't a top 10 talent country. We lost to Turkey and Belgium, who both overall have more talent than the US does.

We lost in the exact round we "should" have based on talent. Won the group, looked pretty good doing it, won a knockout game in pretty dominant fashion, then lost to a better squad. That game was terrible and the team somehow seemed flat, but the result going into the WC was make it to the 16 and hope we get a good draw. We got an ok draw, but when you have your captain and goalie from MLS, you don't have the same edge
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:49 am to
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I think we as a country still need to realize we aren't a top 10 talent country. We lost to Turkey and Belgium, who both overall have more talent than the US does.



I don't think it's the talent that's a problem. We are a country that is big enough that we are able to turn raw talent into prolific football, baseball, basketball, golf, track & field, etc. players.

We have more than enough athletes to field an elite soccer team.

The issue we have is that our youth development system is lacking elite youth coaches to properly teach the game and get the most out of that raw talent.

quote:

when you have your captain and goalie from MLS, you don't have the same edge


I don't think that's being fair to Tim Ream. He is one of the few positive proof of concepts for the American development. He squeezed out every ounce of potential he possibly could in his career to the point that he was one of the better CB's in the EPL and even captained his side while there.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 10:52 am
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:09 am to
Color me shocked. That's amazing news.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:35 am to
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He could stay busy every day the next four years just fixing the youth system



highly unlikely to be fixed. there's too much money being made by too many organizations for them to allow the necessary changes to happen to develop our youth better.

Until organizations are incentivized to actually develop talent, we'll continue to just take parents money and travel like we are professional team when we are 12 years old all over the country as if that somehow makes the kids better.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:46 pm to
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We lost in the exact round we "should" have based on talent. Won the group, looked pretty good doing it, won a knockout game in pretty dominant fashion, then lost to a better squad. That game was terrible and the team somehow seemed flat, but the result going into the WC was make it to the 16 and hope we get a good draw. 


Yeah but we see teams every WC punch above their weight and advance further. That's what he was hired to do, and on its face he failed.

However, he came in mid cycle so I'm not against letting him have another crack at it. Two years from now at the Copa we'll see what full cycle progress has been made.


And I'm so tired of seeing every post/tweet/etc online harping on how he's won the most WC games for a USMNT coach. We benefitted from an extra game vs a 3rd place team, and exited at the same point. All of us were riding on the romance of that 1st game and excused a gritty performance against the Aussies (which is what we always do) and a sub filled shite fest vs Turkey for progress.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Yeah but we see teams every WC punch above their weight and advance further. That's what he was hired to do, and on its face he failed.

The team definitely didn't punch up, but at least they beat the teams they should have with ease...that's a start, and something Gregg couldn't do.

I think the biggest issue with US players is the mental piece of the game, and something that Pochettino has been fighting hard to crack. The game against Belgium and the aftermath have been freaking pathetic. Notably giving anonymous quotes to media basically using the Trump/Balogun situation an excuse. Soft loser behavior.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83268 posts
Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:08 pm to
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The team definitely didn't punch up, but at least they beat the teams they should have with ease...that's a start, and something Gregg couldn't do.



Huh?

They made it to the same round of the World Cup. And Gregg had a winning record against Mexico, Poch didn't. Both had really bad records against UEFA squads.

I feel like we're artificially inflating Poch's accomplishments with the USMNT because of the Paraguay match.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:32 pm to
This board will do anything except give Gregg credit for his accomplishments lol. World beater coach? Obviously not. But the team was incredibly young and performed as expected. He ushered in the next generation of players (after the 2018 failure), recruited like Saban (Balogun, Tillman, Dest, etc), got us through qualifying and the World Cup with the youngest roster there, consistently put out lineups this forum agreed with, and had us playing really solid defense. He won every nations league, a gold cup with a C+ team at best against Mexico’s A team, and thoroughly dominated them for most of his tenure. Honestly I felt our style was too defensive and frankly boring, way too much cross and inshallah. Poch has the potential to take this team to higher highs but with variance and sacrificing some defensive solidity for offensive production we also have the potential for some stinkers. Overall I’m happy for us to rehire Poch and am cautiously optimistic about what he can do. I like the competitive fire he’s put back into this team with everyone fighting for their position. Here’s to hoping we don’t have another round of 16 flame out.
Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 1:42 pm to
Greg was not great. This board doesnt need to give him credit.

His floor was pretty low. His ceiling was low. And the style was frustrating. He clearly had issues with the team chemistry as time went on too.

His time was done. We had zero chance of becoming better under him.



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