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re: FIFA's DEI VAR Ref Boots Germany
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:43 am to Buckeye06
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:43 am to Buckeye06
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I didn't see it as obvious that the German guy was trying to impede him but did in fact do so. If I was a German fan I absolutely would be pissed today though
He did hug him though. They crowding of the goalie before the kick and then hugging them during flight has got to stop.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:03 am to bbap
Watching the play I neveer thought the German player committed a foul on the keeper, rather he was standing and facing him, and the keeper made the move towards him. Then fell and embellished the contact. After reading the replies in this thread I can see why VAR and the ref made the call they did if that play was interpreted by them the way many in here also interpreted it.
And hearing from Clattenberg yesterday about how Fifa pre tournament decided that any movement from a player towards a keeper is an automatic foul, it seems they used that verbage to determine the outcome.
And hearing from Clattenberg yesterday about how Fifa pre tournament decided that any movement from a player towards a keeper is an automatic foul, it seems they used that verbage to determine the outcome.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:09 am to bbap
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They crowding of the goalie before the kick
This absolutely not, it isn't any different from marking anyone else not a keeper out there. You can stand wherever you want, make a run wherever you want, etc
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then hugging them during flight has got to stop
This part absolutely. Shouldn't be allowed to wrap arms around anyone, tug their shirts, etc
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:17 am to SabiDojo
I agree. The German player is facing the goalie and runs to the him as the ball is going away from the goalie and way overhead. Why was the German player running in that direction if not to impede the goalie from coming back across the goal with the ball?
I get that people don't like the goalie selling the foul and that he could have made the stop if he didn't go to ground, but I think it is the right call.
I get that people don't like the goalie selling the foul and that he could have made the stop if he didn't go to ground, but I think it is the right call.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:59 am to AwesomeSauce
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The attacker made contact with the goalie, impeded his path, and wasn't attempting to make a play on the ball. By the letter of the law that seems to satisfy all of the criteria to disallow the goal and award Paraguay a free kick.
Yeah, not only the letter of the law but has been also a specific point of emphasis to coaches and players that it will be called this World Cup -- at least according to commentators in a few matches I've watched.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:18 pm to MetArl15
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The DEI comment is utter bullshite
Except is is spot on. Look at her background—she has virtually no experience in matches of that magnitude—she literally “Didn’t Earn It!” She had one qualification—her gender. VARs are usually experienced refs with lots of matches under their belts. She was not. And once she calls the field ref over, is he allowed to point that out? Or will FIFA pull him from future matches because he dared to overrule the incompetent idiot. Again, he saw it on the field and thought it was good. It was only after she inserted herself that he had to make the decision of staying with his call or challenging FIFA’s obvious diversity initiative. He never should have been put in that position.
Don’t even get me started on the obvious handball in the box and the foul on Woltemade she didn’t even bother to review. Entirely incompetent and out of her depth. And this is why people are fed up with diversity initiatives. Get the best, most experienced refs out there. Black, white, green, blue, purple, man, woman, trannie, idgaf. Just give us someone who has the judgment and the experience to do the job right!
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:33 pm to RockChalkTiger
What obvious handball in the box?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:51 pm to bbap
This one. Didn’t even have it checked!


Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:52 pm to RockChalkTiger
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Didn’t even have it checked!
This is likely clearly false, almost everything is checked.
However, based on that still shot that doesn't look remotely like a handball. An actual video would be helpful though.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:03 pm to RockChalkTiger
Without looking at other VAR officials, is she that inexperienced? She’s been a FIFA ref since 2014. She reffed in the 2023 WWC, the 2024 Copa America, the 2024 Olympics, and the 2025 Club World Cup. Strikes me as qualified.
She interpreted the rule and the ref agreed with her interpretation.
The idea that FIFA would punish him for not agreeing with the VAR official is based on nothing.
The DEI claim is utter bullshite, as I said.
She interpreted the rule and the ref agreed with her interpretation.
The idea that FIFA would punish him for not agreeing with the VAR official is based on nothing.
The DEI claim is utter bullshite, as I said.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:05 pm to RockChalkTiger
Your link doesn't work.
You keep saying that with zero proof.
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But not even checked!
You keep saying that with zero proof.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:12 pm to bbap
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Your link doesn't work
Works fine in the country I’m in. Go find one that works in yours.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:20 pm to RockChalkTiger
I actually did, and it's not even remotely close to being handball. No offense, but at this point i feel like the VAR lady you find so incompetent is much more capable in her decision making.
You seem like you are on full tilt.
You seem like you are on full tilt.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 2:23 pm to ATLienTiger
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Watching the play I neveer thought the German player committed a foul on the keeper, rather he was standing and facing him, and the keeper made the move towards him. Then fell and embellished the contact. After reading the replies in this thread I can see why VAR and the ref made the call they did if that play was interpreted by them the way many in here also interpreted it.
And hearing from Clattenberg yesterday about how Fifa pre tournament decided that any movement from a player towards a keeper is an automatic foul, it seems they used that verbage to determine the outcome.
The falling to embellish contact is a stretch.
Keepers have too much to worry about to embellish in that situation. Bodies moving, man marking, angles, ball trajectory.
I don’t think any keeper is thinking “If I get impeded, I’m going to fall to make it look worst, but maintain good enough position to recover and make the save if the is not awarded.”
I can see them flailing their arms, but not falling.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 2:29 pm to ATLienTiger
This isn’t even controversial. The only reason it isn’t called more regularly is because most instances of it don’t result in a goal so there’s no need for VAR to go back and correct it
You can jockey for position and be a nuisance in front of a goal
You cannot put your arms around a goalie and claim natural motion
It’s shocking it even warranted an attempted dunk thread
You can jockey for position and be a nuisance in front of a goal
You cannot put your arms around a goalie and claim natural motion
It’s shocking it even warranted an attempted dunk thread
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:23 pm to bbap
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He did hug him though. They crowding of the goalie before the kick and then hugging them during flight has got to stop.
Exactly. Theres only one reason teams do this and its to interfere with the goalie hoping it isnt called. It is point of emphasis this world cup and isnt gonna stand.
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