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re: Does anyone here feel shame supporting a Big 6 club?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:26 pm to southpawcock
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:26 pm to southpawcock
They (English) do it as well… when they scan the crowds you’ll see a bunch of American teams, mostly professional football or baseball (Yankees, Dodgers, Giants). I guess they could be Americans visiting but they definitely look like Englishmen…
Liverpool fan, ggmother was from there, it’s in me blood… no shame.
Liverpool fan, ggmother was from there, it’s in me blood… no shame.
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:41 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Feeling shame for supporting the greatest team in the history of sports would be retarded.
Wolves thank you for your service
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:03 pm to southpawcock
How are people in the US supposed to even know that Millwall exists, for instance? How often are any of the non EPL/La Liga teams on TV for us to watch?
I haven't had goalkeeping from any English or Irish re: supporting Liverpool. It's not my fault an Irish (not sure if dude or a lady) handed me a baby after they won the a cup when I walked into a pub outside of Athlone wearing a red polo in 2006.
Is it more of a problem with the London teams, and ManU/City? Is it Americans not being able to take the piss properly and joust back?
An easy retort is that (to me at least) it was difficult/expensive to watch even EPL games on traditional carriers. We *can't* have been fans since we were four years old, since we couldn't watch. Now we're spoiled with choice with USA, Peacock, NBC, and Paramount+. It seemed to have shifted around 2020. Wrexham gets on TV because of Ryan and Rob, otherwise we'd never know who they were. Most of us have no idea where the teams that they play are, even.
I haven't had goalkeeping from any English or Irish re: supporting Liverpool. It's not my fault an Irish (not sure if dude or a lady) handed me a baby after they won the a cup when I walked into a pub outside of Athlone wearing a red polo in 2006.
Is it more of a problem with the London teams, and ManU/City? Is it Americans not being able to take the piss properly and joust back?
An easy retort is that (to me at least) it was difficult/expensive to watch even EPL games on traditional carriers. We *can't* have been fans since we were four years old, since we couldn't watch. Now we're spoiled with choice with USA, Peacock, NBC, and Paramount+. It seemed to have shifted around 2020. Wrexham gets on TV because of Ryan and Rob, otherwise we'd never know who they were. Most of us have no idea where the teams that they play are, even.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:03 am to southpawcock
Thierry Henry, FIFA 04 
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:12 am to southpawcock
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I have really noticed that British people in general love to gatekeep this sport from Americans in particular.
in my experience this isn’t true at all
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:51 pm to ghoast
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They (English) do it as well… when they scan the crowds you’ll see a bunch of American teams, mostly professional football or baseball (Yankees, Dodgers, Giants). I guess they could be Americans visiting but they definitely look like Englishmen…
No doubt. And any time the NFL, or the MLB for that matter, goes to England or Europe those stadiums are absolutely packed - presumably most of whom did not grow up rooting for a specific team.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 5:08 pm to southpawcock
In the late 90s when I became a Premier League fan and a game was on FoxSportSouth and I was actually at home and to watch it, it was always Man United, Arsenal or Liverpool. I think that's a big part of the 36 year old and up crowd being fans of the Big 6 Clubs. That's all that came on TV in the late 90s/early 2000s.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 11:42 pm to southpawcock
I admin. a large Fulham group on FB. There is often some disdain for American fans and/or tourists and plastics coming to Craven Cottage.
I was a sort of Arsenal fan and Southampton in the 90s. Coverage was non-existent in the media. I'd go to the newsstand to buy magazines. And I check the USAToday for scores when the only Americans were Kasey Keller, Marcus Hahnemann, Tony Meola, Ian Feuer, Jurgen Somer (all keepers) and Johnny Harkes at Wednesday.
THEN, Eddie Lewis signed for Fulham in 2002, followed by Brian McBride, Carlos Bocanegra and Clint Dempsey. Kasey went for a year, and Eddie Johnson (who showed his arse at Upton Park by not being able to round the keeper). I was hooked.
Then Tim Ream signed and Jedi chose to play for the U.S. I'm Fulham for life.
I was a sort of Arsenal fan and Southampton in the 90s. Coverage was non-existent in the media. I'd go to the newsstand to buy magazines. And I check the USAToday for scores when the only Americans were Kasey Keller, Marcus Hahnemann, Tony Meola, Ian Feuer, Jurgen Somer (all keepers) and Johnny Harkes at Wednesday.
THEN, Eddie Lewis signed for Fulham in 2002, followed by Brian McBride, Carlos Bocanegra and Clint Dempsey. Kasey went for a year, and Eddie Johnson (who showed his arse at Upton Park by not being able to round the keeper). I was hooked.
Then Tim Ream signed and Jedi chose to play for the U.S. I'm Fulham for life.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:40 am to RandySavage
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This is my favorite. Liverpool fans trying to take the moral high ground for picking the most successful club in English football history and about to win or having just won a CL title. The only thing more insufferable than an American Liverpool fan is an English one.
That's cute of you.
I had no idea Liverpool's history at that time. I wasn't going to Ask Jeeves on my Compaq dial up internet computer to learn about their history when i started following them. What I knew of the Premier League is what little i saw on tv, and it was all ManU and Arsenal at that time, and a little bit of Chelsea and Liverpool.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:48 am to southpawcock
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:07 am to southpawcock
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noticed that British people in general love to gatekeep this sport from Americans in particular.
Did not experience this whatsoever while I was in London or Liverpool. Was a fun experience watching the Super Bowl in Liverpool since I found a fellow Texans fan.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:27 pm to southpawcock
My sister was working in Manchester in the early 00's I was in my early teens and playing a lot of soccer whether it was school ball, travel, etc. So i was very into following David Beckham, Zidane, Ronaldo (R9) just so happen to be visiting my sister in 2003 and she was able to get 2 tickets from her boss for the United vs Liverpool game in April 2003. I was hooked after that and it was awesome being a fan of a team winning literally everything almost every year. I don't mind being called a bandwagon because I have sat thru the last decade of post Fergie doom & despair United. So that has to count as something 
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Ironically most American Man United fans are pretty decent just because the vast majority who dive in avoid them as it’s too cliche, so they tend to have good reasons or links as to why, or they’ve just been a fan for a very very long time going back to the 90’s and probably are a good football fan at this stage.
I’ve been a United supporter since the early 90s. Playing against the Class of ‘92 in the Dallas Cup cemented it for me. They were so much better than us it was pathetic. I tell folks I got my fandom honestly.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:36 am to RandySavage
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Liverpool fans trying to take the moral high ground for picking the most successful club in English football history and about to win or having just won a CL title. The only thing more insufferable than an American Liverpool fan is an English one.
Here's the difference. Americans getting into European soccer and starting to follow a team don't do a deep dive into the history of the game or club. There's no advantage to "tradition" if you didn't grow up witnessing it or hearing the stories about it. When I started following liverpool, Brendan Rodgers was doing his best to drive the club into the ground and they'd just sold the best striker in the premiere league. For all I knew about liverpool, they were a mid table club with an amazing atmosphere.
Contrast that to when you started following chelsea, a perennial top of the table finisher and champions league contender in that period with an astronomical payroll. It's no different than someone who became a city fan in the Pep era. If you supported them under Pellegrini or prior, props to you.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 9:50 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I've never truly felt connected to any team... believe me I have tried. What I realized is that I just cannot arbitrarily pick a club and say that's who I support. Guess it just needs to happen naturally; I watch enough and have for over a decade but maybe a club to support just is not in the cards for me.
For my long suffering as a Gamecock fan and the easy 'chicken' connection, you'd think I would have gravitated to Spurs.
Maybe at present the only shame in supporting a Big 6 club is in supporting Spurs.
For my long suffering as a Gamecock fan and the easy 'chicken' connection, you'd think I would have gravitated to Spurs.
Maybe at present the only shame in supporting a Big 6 club is in supporting Spurs.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 10:01 am to Riseupfromtherubble
My dickhead buddies in college started supporting City so they could shite talk me when City got that oil shine. Good times.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 4:13 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Here's the difference. Americans getting into European soccer and starting to follow a team don't do a deep dive into the history of the game or club. There's no advantage to "tradition" if you didn't grow up witnessing it or hearing the stories about it. When I started following liverpool, Brendan Rodgers was doing his best to drive the club into the ground and they'd just sold the best striker in the premiere league. For all I knew about liverpool, they were a mid table club with an amazing atmosphere.
Contrast that to when you started following chelsea, a perennial top of the table finisher and champions league contender in that period with an astronomical payroll. It's no different than someone who became a city fan in the Pep era. If you supported them under Pellegrini or prior, props to you.
Thanks for proving my point better than I ever could have. Pure delusion and completely dishonest. Hurr durr I didn't know Liverpool had a great history. "No advantage to tradition", yeah I'm sure you've never boasted about Liverpool's 6 European titles or 20 whatever League Titles or cried for Justice for the 96 Liverpool supporters murdered by other Liverpool supporters.
Not to mention, when I started following Chelsea it was a year after Liverpool beat them in the CL seminfinals on their way to winning the whole thing in Istanbul. Thank God Michael Essien didn't play for Liverpool in 2006 lest I be tied to suc a cesspool of a city/club.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:19 am to RandySavage
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Thanks for proving my point better than I ever could have. Pure delusion and completely dishonest. Hurr durr I didn't know Liverpool had a great history
Why the frick would someone just starting to watch the sport do a deep dive into a clubs history? Your fragile mind just can't comprehend that a club like Liverpool exudes passion and energy even when they're sitting mid table. That's an organic trait, you can't buy it with Russian mob money. Maybe in a sense you're right, the tradition and history was palpable through the television. There wasn't a need to do a deep dive, because it was evident that here's a club with real character, and that doesn't happen overnight.
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Thank God Michael Essien didn't play for Liverpool in 2006 lest I be tied to suc a cesspool of a city/club.
Yea, London is peak western civilization. There's more Pakis in London than Abbottabad. Their Sunni Muslim mayor is presiding over a cultural beacon that is just a shining light to the rest of the free world.
Who is delusional again?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 9:46 am to southpawcock
I give zero shits about what team someone roots for and why.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 9:50 am to TheWalrus
This is not about any one person, but how people collectively generally think based on what I have witnessed.
Your comment is also not relevant to the literal question of the topic [thread title] at hand.
In that vein, your response should have been more like 'I give zero shits about what people think regarding who I support.'
Your comment is also not relevant to the literal question of the topic [thread title] at hand.
In that vein, your response should have been more like 'I give zero shits about what people think regarding who I support.'
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