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re: Zelensky: Russia must return all territory gained since 2014, calls it a redline

Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46317 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:40 pm to
sorry for you loss - when Russia takes over at least the corruption pipeline into the MIC in the USA will be cut and most of the $$$ flow into the DEM coffers will have to find a new source.

Heaven forbid that you MIGHT even have to rely on American VOTERs (meaning citizens) for your support.
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2651 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

The mental contortions you people have to go through to rationalize your support for a brutal dictator violating the sovereignty of a neighboring country is astounding.


This is what Stockholm syndrome looks like folks
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70937 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

So he wants Crimea (who's parliament voted to become a part of Russia), Donetsk and Luhansk, who also wanted to separate from Ukraine. 2 regions that Ukraine cluster bombed civilians, returned to Ukraine.

Not very respectful of democracy, huh?

Then again, this vertical wang canceled elections to maintain power, so...
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46317 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:43 pm to
somebody need to chain him to some unmovable object so he cannot flee off to his hideaway once the Russians take over. Let him enjoy what he condemned his citizenry to endure.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
1873 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:43 pm to
Sounds like a smart Trump-style tactic where you start with something you know you can’t get and hopefully compromise.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
7165 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:44 pm to
Germany and France you can deal with this idiot. The USA is out.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:46 pm to
wtf is all that bullshite?

"I'm sorry for you loss"? Really?

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:46 pm to
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The mental contortions you people have to go through to rationalize your support for a brutal dictator violating the sovereignty of a neighboring country is astounding.


I'm replying b/c although I generally agree with you—Russia is the one that violated international law by invading Ukraine—this is not a realistic position for Z. to take at all.

It's not going to happen and there's no way he could reasonably think it will.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Sounds like a smart Trump-style tactic where you start with something you know you can’t get and hopefully compromise.


Yeah, that only works when you have some leverage.

I don't think that's what's happening.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
96200 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

The mental contortions you people have to go through to rationalize your support for a brutal dictator violating the sovereignty of a neighboring country is astounding.


Zero contortions. I was already trending this way before that infamous Friday meeting in the Oval.

Now I openly cheer for Russia to seize additional land with as little resistance as possible
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
8222 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Sounds like a smart Trump-style tactic where you start with something you know you can’t get and hopefully compromise.


Yeah, that only works when you have some leverage.

I don't think that's what's happening.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7546 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Z is taking orders/instructions directly from the entities/people who are trying to run a COUP on the Trump presidency


Susan Rice, BO, and Chuck Schumar.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4115 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:50 pm to
Time for America to peace out. Russia can take the whole thing, unless EU wants to fight for Ukraine.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
19787 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1510 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:51 pm to
Yea no ceasefire is happening anytime soon. Putin will turn this into a true war of attrition soon. Let the meat continue to grind.
Posted by pauer9
Member since Mar 2025
30 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Time for Russia to turn up the heat and take the entire country then


“The political talk board is not pro-Russia”
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2204 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:53 pm to
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This is what Stockholm syndrome looks like folks

These are the exact mental gymnastics I'm talking about, it doesn't even make any sense.

And here Zelensky is working with Trump, and agreeing to a ceasefire, but it's Putin who is being intransigent. Yet, you people just can't help yourselves with the misinformation. Putin started the war, Putin could end the war. But y'all want to blame the injured party that's actually cooperating with Trump.

Funny thing about Nationalists, they can't abide other Nationalists. They talk about sovereignty as if it's sacrosanct, but it turns out, only theirs is.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7489 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:53 pm to
Little schmuck is simply doing the bidding of his Brussels and Davos overlords (and to be sure DC neocons as well).

They’d convinced themselves sometime back that Vlad can be bled dry, ultimately overthrown and their version of “Liberal Democracy” will ultimately march in to Russia.

They are insane.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4321 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:53 pm to
Thoughts and prayers, Z -
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39977 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 12:53 pm to
When are you flying to Ukraine to serve Z man?
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