- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Your federal hiring freeze at work
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:12 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Frabkly I think this is wonderful news. Maybe this will force some of the single moms sucking on the teat of the military while not really contributing anything and more than likely unable to deploy to get out of the military so they can find a job with daycare. If only ten of them get out were talking savings of over $1 million a year.
There are plenty of single fathers in the military that this would affect. There are plenty of dad in the military whose wives work on base, or off base in a civilian role, that this will affect. I know that you harbor a lot of hate toward women in the military, but they aren't the only ones who will suffer from this.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 9:15 am
2
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:13 am to Floating Change Up
My mom worked hard, too. She didn't need the Army's help to do it.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:13 am to Floating Change Up
quote:
There is no other option
Yes there is.
quote:
put their Children off-post into a German day care.
This is it.
My buddy was stationed in Germany for a good while and his new born went to German daycare (mainly spoke German but they did find one that spoke English as well which ain't hard over there)....now his kid speaks English and German fluently and she is like 7 yrs old now.
It can be done hoss.....just because it's easier for the Federal govt to pay for it and all is great.
quote:
When they try to enroll the kid into the first grade or kindergarten, guess what? They have a shite ton of extra hoops to fly through because the kid didn't attend an accredited pre-school.
So go through the extra work.....It's pretty simple actually the schools are already experts at it with all the illegals.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:14 am to Tigerdev
quote:
In your infinite wisdom, how would you as a local commander handle a non-discretionary reduction in force? You have probably never been in anything close to that level of responsibility but you would find yourself shutting down non-core services. We have been under on/off freezes since 2010. This is what happens. Every time.
and that is a problem with the monster that is bureaucracy
it's not limited to just the military
bureaucracies are self-promoting living ecosystems that, like all living things, react to attack to defend themselves
this is always the conundrum in decreasing the budget/scope of a bureaucracy
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:15 am to Navytiger74
You are correct. My fear is mission will stay in tact with a massive reduction in budget
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:16 am to Draconian Sanctions
So we already knew draconian sanctions had a computer cause he posts here. Know we know he has a printer and a highlighter too. Exciting times
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:16 am to Damone
quote:
I wonder how ex-pats living and/or working in Germany manage to send their children to school? Are you implying that there are NO English-language schools in Germany other than those funded by the military?
Well school and daycare are somewhat different. But I would guess that more than 98% of military dependents go to the DoDDs schools. The English-language and international schools cost a good bit. Like $20K per year per student. In Germany civilians get an allowance for them, but military doesn't. And that's probably too much to swing for most servicemembers--especially enlisted. A few people do send their kids to German public schools, but it's a different system so they'll have to adjust when they return to the US and make sure all of their requirements are met for a US diploma.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:16 am to dmjones
quote:
There are plenty of single fathers in the military that this would effect. There are plenty of dad in the military whose wives work on base, or off base in a civilian role, that this will effect. I know that you harbor a lot of hate toward women in the military, but they aren't the only ones who will suffer from this.
I don't harbor any hate towards the women in the military. I harbor a hate for the policy that allows them in.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
Why not reduce mission and scope instead of the starvation method?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:18 am to Tigerdev
quote:In all honesty I don't think the budget's going anywhere. I don't think Trump is doctrinally interested in budget cuts at all, and I think he'll certainly exempt the military from anything he does float. Americans by and large don't care about military spending for some reason.
You are correct. My fear is mission will stay in tact with a massive reduction in budget
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:18 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
I don't harbor any hate towards the women in the military. I harbor a hate for the policy that allows them in.
Whatever you say. You still didn't address the rest of my post. Some of you look at everything as black and white when there are always gray areas.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:19 am to Damone
quote:
I wonder how ex-pats living and/or working in Germany manage to send their children to school? Are you implying that there are NO English-language schools in Germany other than those funded by the military?
I wonder if you know how to read? You even quoted the entire sentence which answers both of your questions.
But if you go back and read my post again, you'll see that even though I answered your questions with the sentence you quoted, I actually elaborated on why that is a hard-ship on the Military families.
As for "do what the ex-Pats do" -- No. The military families over there are not ex-Pats. They don't get paid like ex-Pats. They don't get treated by their families like ex-Pats. They don't get treated by host nations like ex-Pats.
There are plenty of English-language shools in Germany. That isn't the point. The point is, when you have an E5 living in Germany for 2 or 3 years with his family, bringing home about $30K - $35K per year -- the programs on base make a huge difference in the family's well-being. They have to take advantage of it -- it truly is not simply a European Vacation for the families stationed in Germany.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:19 am to Tigerdev
this is likely the first step in that direction
when Trump starts pushing for deregulation and decreasing the power of the domestic federal bureaucracy, you're going to see the same shite over and over again. take the EPA...they're not going to decrease their budgets over non-essential things and they're going to go straight for defunding important monitoring functions so they can issue a press release saying "see? you're going to allow lakes to get polluted now!" so that the public reacts in horror
it's just a game and people always fall for it
when Trump starts pushing for deregulation and decreasing the power of the domestic federal bureaucracy, you're going to see the same shite over and over again. take the EPA...they're not going to decrease their budgets over non-essential things and they're going to go straight for defunding important monitoring functions so they can issue a press release saying "see? you're going to allow lakes to get polluted now!" so that the public reacts in horror
it's just a game and people always fall for it
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
...therefore spend, spend, spend.
Dems are like children who think pointing out a negative consequence of living within a budget is a reason to not live within a budget.
Dems are like children who think pointing out a negative consequence of living within a budget is a reason to not live within a budget.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
Whenever a hiring federal hiring freeze is implemented, there often are cases that should be considered for exception.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
You're talking to someone that feels the need to curse every post. Don't know about you, but I can't take him seriously. That's a sign of being uneducated.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
Your definition of government responsibility and my definition are obviously different. I have zero issues with this as the consequences of the hiring freeze fall into the category of personal responsibility.
No one accommodated me in the private sector when I was raising my children - I didn't ask nor did I expect them to.
No one accommodated me in the private sector when I was raising my children - I didn't ask nor did I expect them to.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:24 am to LSU316
quote:
My buddy was stationed in Germany for a good while and his new born went to German daycare (mainly spoke German but they did find one that spoke English as well which ain't hard over there)....now his kid speaks English and German fluently and she is like 7 yrs old now.
You lost me at "My buddy was stationed in Germany for a good while".
Not every Military Family has the ability to send their pre-schoolers off-post.
Source: My family was stationed in Germany for 3 years.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
Sorry Uncle Sugar can't take care of your babies anymore.
Not really. Get a life.
Not really. Get a life.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:32 am to Floating Change Up
quote:
Not every Military Family has the ability to send their pre-schoolers off-post.
What determines who does and who doesn't....because he certainly led me to believe that his daughter went to daycare off base. He was a pretty high rank by the time he went over there I believe....he's since been discharged and is in grad school at an Ivy League school.
Page 6 of 12
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News