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Young men are saved. 2 left wing nuts give oped in NYT regarding masculinity

Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:45 am
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3612 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 9:45 am
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The chick is actually better than the guy, but that is only relative because the guy literally gives the worst take ever, and her take is second worst

(if SFP, Cubbies, and RFK had a throuple son)
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14090 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:06 am to
I saw this pop up on my TikTok and the caption was intriguing. Thought maybe NYT figured it out. Lasted about 2 minutes and realized they haven’t got a clue.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5984 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:21 am to
White supremacy and the patriarchy.

Two things that do not exist and have never actually existed, but need to exist so that money can be fleeced in one way or another. Plus thier existence gives people ways to blame anyone, but themselves, for their own shortcomings.

Shining examples of first world only problems.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35345 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:22 am to
There’s something about reaching your 50s and realizing most of the idiots broadcasting their stupid opinions are significantly younger and a lot dumber and deluded than you are. It’s liberating. I used to get angry and sad. Now I just ignore or at most roll my eyes.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8021 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:30 am to
Wow... some quotable moments from people trying to destroy white men. (Seriously)
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And that was one of the things in my first book that I pushed heavily — that you can be a decent white person, and being a decent white person is not going to be the same as being a decent Persian or a decent Black person or a decent Asian person, because the systems and institutions prop up and lift and are owned by — run by and controlled by — white people.

Get to the back of the bus men.
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And I know that when we’re triaging these issues, like, is harm to men the worst abuse of patriarchy? No, probably harm to women and trans people and people of other genders is more urgent.

1% mental illness > men
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Sabrina Carpenter said that the key to her songwriting is just to call men stupid in as many ways as you can. I really understand where women’s anger comes from. I have lived it. But I also feel so much tenderness for my brother, for other men I know.

Doesn't write her own music.
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I have a younger brother; he’s 14. We have a huge age gap, obviously. And I’ve been having conversations with him about who boys and men are in relation to women since he was probably about 6 years old. Because I do know he’s going to hear and see on the internet: “Men are trash. Men are trash. Men are trash.”

And I guess my answer or my response to that is, “I’m going to tell you why,” right?

... worst person ever.
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Because as a Disney buff, we did have “Snow White” and we did have “Sleeping Beauty” — not only misogyny, but the rape culture of something like “Sleeping Beauty,” even.

Da fun?
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And I think it’s contributing to this sex recession, dating recession, whatever you want to call it, where teenage boys are feeling very fearful of approaching girls. And in some ways that’s good and right, and it’s a correction to a very real problem.

... humanity is a problem?
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Like, if I’m walking and I give a head nod to another man and he’s Black, we have an understanding of what that means. If I do it to a white guy, he’s like, “What the hell are you doing?” I communicate what I’m thinking. Again, I’m not going to infantilize some of these men, but I’m also not going to infantilize women.

This is what happens when we let morons into college...
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Joseph: And to that point, even with Epstein and everything that’s transpired over the last few years — and maybe you’ve seen something different — I’ve not seen a major push to dismantle or unpack patriarchy, to your point. And that’s the thing I’m saying: Oh, we are so angry and frustrated and in disbelief and harmed and hurt by what these men did to these girls. So where are the conversations? Because this is not just wealthy white men flying girls to an island. This is happening in your neighborhood.

Wow...

Fantasy land, no wonder these people are pushing trans on little boys.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61528 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:33 am to
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Two things that do not exist and have never actually existed, but need to exist so that money can be fleeced in one way or another. Plus thier existence gives people ways to blame anyone, but themselves, for their own shortcomings.


Not a white man denying the existence of systems that benefit him.
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4947 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:35 am to
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if SFP, Cubbies, and RFK had a throuple son)


Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61528 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:36 am to
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I have a younger brother; he’s 14. We have a huge age gap, obviously. And I’ve been having conversations with him about who boys and men are in relation to women since he was probably about 6 years old. Because I do know he’s going to hear and see on the internet: “Men are trash. Men are trash. Men are trash.”

And I guess my answer or my response to that is, “I’m going to tell you why,” right?


Reading this made me audibly laugh.

I’m assuming the male contributor wrote this part?
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 10:37 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5984 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:37 am to
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Not a white man denying the existence of systems that benefit him.

I would need someone to explain to me, in great detail, how either of these benefited me personally. Not generally, but personally.

As far as I know, no other person knows my lived experience nor has anyone ever walked in my shoes or overcame my trials.

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8021 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:38 am to
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Not a white man denying the existence of systems that benefit him.

You mean civilization...
The same civilization that you live in where you are proud of the house next to a good school you bought, a 401k, a housemaid you pay 2x the going rate to...

Knowing you can only afford such via other people's money.

You are the most guilty of all here.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35992 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:40 am to
It all starts with the woman saying she wants to learn about masculinity in the modern world, and then she sets up an echo chamber with two anti-patriarchal leftists. In the first 5 minutes the guy makes a statement about when his 14 year old brother sees nothing but "men are trash" in media, he makes sure he lectures him on understanding WHY men are trash.

These people are not intelligent, and cannot be taken seriously.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61528 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:41 am to
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I would need someone to explain to me, in great detail, how either of these benefited me personally. Not generally, but personally.


Obviously I would need to know your life story to do this. Instead of viewing everything at a granular level, consider if men or whites people in general benefit from some societal structures?

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As far as I know, no other person knows my lived experience nor has anyone ever walked in my shoes or overcame my trials.

No one is attempting to personally indict you for anything.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35992 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:42 am to
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And that was one of the things in my first book that I pushed heavily — that you can be a decent white person, and being a decent white person is not going to be the same as being a decent Persian or a decent Black person or a decent Asian person, because the systems and institutions prop up and lift and are owned by — run by and controlled by — white people.


They nailed the capitalization of the different races.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61528 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:43 am to
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You are the most guilty of all here.


the vitriol dripping from your posts to me is palpable
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
81086 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:44 am to
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never actually existed


Um.....
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8021 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:47 am to
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vitriol

Its your fantasy if you think that word is correct.

I cannot abide hypocrites, so I set the record straight.

Do you think its healthy for you to live in such delusion?

No, you should be reminded.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20069 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:47 am to
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Not a white man denying the existence of systems that benefit him.


Is this meritocracy, cause it sounds like meritocracy............
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20174 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:47 am to
These people spend way too much time sitting around navel gazing about the structure of society as taught to them by Marxist activists.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61528 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:48 am to
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if SFP, Cubbies, and RFK had a throuple son)


Who would be the birthing person?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123105 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 10:50 am to
People die attempting to come here to participate in our white man “systems”
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