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re: Young men are saved. 2 left wing nuts give oped in NYT regarding masculinity

Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5986 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:47 pm to
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We had slavery and Jim Crow in the past so it would be inaccurate to say white supremacy never existed

Well, I am a Republican and we ended those evil, racist Democrats.

But seriously, the slave trade was not about white supremacy. Whites were held in slavery as well as every other race. Availability and easy access dictated who would and who would not become a slave. Many slave owners, right here in tUSA were people of color.

Jim Crow, we have separate but equal happening now, everywhere. Is that driven by white supremacy or not?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5986 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:54 pm to
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Unless explicitly delineated otherwise, I assume every thread is about the USA.

I guess my bottom line is that if someone is to make a claim, similar to racisim, sexism, etc...what is the calibrating standard that was used to make a claim like that? Why is this claim only made in the western 1st world countries? Things like "the patriarchy" isn't even a thing in western 2nd world countries.

I think we have too much time to worry about too many things, that at the end of the day, doesn't really matter. Seems it has only made things worse over time. American women are more unhappy today. American minorities are more unhappy today. Neither have ever held more power, influence or wealth than they do today.

Where does this end? What is the end goal?
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3614 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Who would be the birthing person?


Not sure which of you is the bearded man who menstruates
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72633 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:13 pm to
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I think that we are in an abysmal state.

I think the reality is that we’ve always had patriarchy at the intersection of capitalism and white supremacy, and how those things feast on one another and lift one another. But I think right now, more times than not, the role models that these young boys and young men have are not only divisive and toxic but insidious and heinous, disgusting. Truly, I mean, the president of the United States is an alleged rapist. What does that mean? You know, the popular thing that boys are watching is largely M.M.A., right? So I think we’re in a horrible place.


First words out of this idiot's mouth. Made sure to get all the buzzwords in by the second sentence.

And, cool, can we men wax expertise in these same media conversations about femininity that all these women enjoy the same privilege regarding masculinity?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61531 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Her kids are going to be gender wierd


My kids are incredible.

We got caught in the rain at City Park yesterday evening.




Idk why y’all make bizarre assumptions about me and my family. We’re pretty wholesome and normal.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76580 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:19 pm to
AI rocks
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
84235 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:19 pm to
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My kids are incredible.
They are going to end up gender wierd

Feminists can't help but try to make boys terrified or ashamed of being boys

Ends with boys wanting to be girls
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27413 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:25 pm to
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White supremacy and the patriarchy.


I think I get what you’re trying to say. People throw around these terms like hotcakes now for no other reason than to get money, get attention, and deflect blame. So much so that it nearly eradicates any meaning of the terms.

But if you don’t believe Western countries historically didnt believe in or enact policies based on racial superiority… I simply don’t know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61531 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:26 pm to
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Can you help me understand an example of a system that advantages white men disproportionately, in any context, over another minority?


Sure. One historical example would be housing policy and mortgage lending in the mid-20th century United States. Programs like FHA-backed loans and redlining practices disproportionately expanded homeownership opportunities for white families while excluding many Black families from the same wealth-building mechanisms.

Another example would be criminal sentencing disparities, where multiple studies have found Black defendants often receive harsher sentences than similarly situated white defendants.

Healthcare outcomes are another example. Multiple studies have found that Black patients in the United States often receive different treatment than white patients even when controlling for insurance status, income, and reported symptoms.

None of this means white men universally benefit in every situation or that individual white men cannot struggle.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21388 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Not a white man denying the existence of systems that benefit him.

Ahh and here she is, lol. The women who knows nothing about masculinity(hates men as a gender) lecturing to us about masculinity.
If y’all want to see what a matriarchal society run by the 4cubbies of the world look at the African American society. Their families are matriarchies run by women and have been for decades. A community in chaos. Major problems in almost every area of life and run by single moms raising boys.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21388 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Idk why y’all make bizarre assumptions about me and my family. We’re pretty wholesome and normal.

Thank God for your husband because you would ruin your son if you raised him alone.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
84235 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 2:49 pm to
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historical example
We are talking today, ma'am

"historical" just becomes a game of "how far back do you want to go"

If we end up with the Barbary's I win



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Another example would be criminal sentencing disparities, where multiple studies have found Black defendants often receive harsher sentences than similarly situated white defendants.
Not one study controlled for criminal history

Comparing the sentence of 10-time black felon caught with an ounce of weed to a first time white offender caught with an ounce of weed

Everytime people attempt such controls, it starts to go very bad for the BLM types.

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Healthcare outcomes are another example. Multiple studies have found that Black patients in the United States often receive different treatment than white patients even when controlling for insurance status, income, and reported symptoms.
Because better doctors refrain from opening practices in more crime-ridden areas.
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