re: You guys realize the word "shithole" isn't what people are upset about, right?

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I'm not talking about solving class issues. I'm just saying it's probably best if we try not to make class issues worse.

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Class issues within the United States, you mean. Certainly, you don't think our immigration policy should weigh class issues of those in other nations above our own, do you?

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I got bad news for you, we aren’t New Zealand.

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I know. Even MORE people want to come here.

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You think it’s just a matter of our policy, and not about what people in other countries want for themselves?

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WTF are you babbling about?

There are more people in the world who want to come here than we could possibly accept.

Hence, our priority should be to accept those that benefit us.

You know, those that want to come. Of which, many are from perfectly decent countries. In fact, probably more than we can accept just from that subset.

Go get informed dumb arse.

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Maybe we should invade Norway and FORCE Norwegians to come here and MAGA.

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LOL at your pathetic understanding of the point.

As always, you're one of the dumbest long term posters on this board if not THE dumbest.

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You know, those that want to come. Of which, many are from perfectly decent countries. In fact, probably more than we can accept just from that subset. Go get informed dumb arse.

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“Probably”?

And you say I need to be informed?

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LOL at your pathetic understanding of the point.

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No, it’s your fearless leader’s point. He doesn’t even know why people from shitholes want to come here, yet Norwegians are ambivalent.

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As always, you're one of the dumbest long term posters on this board if not THE dumbest

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Yeah, I’m thinking that doesn’t help make you look smarter. Maybe try a different approach.

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No, it’s your fearless leader’s point. He doesn’t even know why people from shitholes want to come here,

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Where on Earth would you get that from?

Everyone knows WHY they want to come.

Now you're just making shite up.

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Yeah, I’m thinking that doesn’t help make you look smarter. Maybe try a different approach.

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I've tried different approaches with you.

You are just dumb. That isn't my fault.

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less worthy of becoming Americans than people from other places

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Nobody is “worthy” of becoming an American.

No non-citizen has some global right to citizenship of any other nation.

Your premise is based on the untested premise that America is some gift from the universe that every human has a right to. Trump rightly rejects that premise.

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the land of opportunity

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What is this bullshite? Who said we are the land of opportunity, and what gave them the right to say it?

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One cannot "very clearly" insinuate anything. Insinuate means to suggest or hint, which leaves things open to interpretation.

Quit reaching.

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I don't know about you, but that last time I called something a shithole, it was because it wasn't even worthy of discussion.


I find it hilarious that there are always two types of Trump supporters on every controversial topic:

1. He didn't do/say that and/or it was taken out of context, he really meant X, which doesn't sound nearly as bad.

2. Yeah he said it, he meant it, and he's right. He's speaking for the majority of Americans, and that's why I voted for him.

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I find it hilarious that there are always two types of Trump supporters on every controversial topic:

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And there's always one type of leftist: the anti-Trumper, to whom every bit of negative hearsay is gospel and context is irrelevant and/or racist.

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Nobody is “worthy” of becoming an American.

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So let's eliminate any and all immigration, then? Further, all current Americans must leave?

Worthy does not mean entitled, it means deemed acceptable in this context.

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Your premise is based on the untested premise that America is some gift from the universe that every human has a right to.

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No, it's not. Not at all. The fact that you interpreted my OP in this way tells me all I need to know about you.

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What is this bullshite? Who said we are the land of opportunity, and what gave them the right to say it?

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Are you serious?

It is the American Dream. It is the fact that freedom affords opportunity.

So who said this is the land of opportunity? Basically everyone who has any respect for America at all. Countless politicians, authors, businessmen... PEOPLE from all walks of life and most nations the world over consider the US the land of opportunity. Do you not? Even motherfricking Fox News says so.

And what gave them the right to say it? Are you serious again?

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And there's always one type of leftist: the anti-Trumper, to whom every bit of negative hearsay is gospel and context is irrelevant and/or racist.

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Look, I'm not one to harp on everything he says and does. Nobody is perfect. I say stupid and/or regrettable shite all the time.

But no, context is not irrelevant. In fact, for me, context is everything. I know that a lot of the things Trump says are taken out of context. But when you look at something he says in the context of other things he's said, taken all together you get a pretty clear picture of his feelings and priorities. Especially when you consider things said behind closed doors (when corroborated).