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Y'all owe the guy who pointed out the wrong check-in date for Vegas shooter an apology

Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:52 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93382 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:52 am
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just keeps getting worse for the investigation

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In a statement released late Tuesday, MGM Resorts International disputed Sheriff Joe Lombardo’s revised timeline of the Oct. 1 mass shooting on the Strip.

“This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts,” MGM Resorts spokesperson Debra DeShong said in the statement. “As evidenced by law enforcement briefings over the past week, many facts are still unverified and continue to change as events are under review. We cannot be certain about the most recent timeline that has been communicated publically, (sic) and we believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”

Lombardo revised the timeline during a news conference Monday. He said police had learned that security guard Jesus Campos was shot in the hallway before at least 58 people at the Route 91 Harvest festival were killed and nearly 500 were injured. Police previously said Campos was shot after the attack on the concert crowd.

The sheriff also said gunman Stephen Paddock checked in to Mandalay Bay on Sept. 25, three days earlier than first reported.

Lombardo reiterated the revised timeline during an extensive interview Tuesday afternoon with the Las Vegas Review-Journal but emphasized that “it could change even more.”


The MGM statement was released Tuesday by Joele Frank, a public relations firm in New York City.
“We understand the public’s desire for information and the importance of getting our community and the public at large the information they deserve, and we are doing everything we can to support law enforcement’s efforts to do so,” according to the statement. “Therefore, it is not appropriate for us to comment further at this time on what remains an open matter for law enforcement.”


Contact Rachel Crosby at rcrosby@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-5290. Follow @rachelacrosby on Twitter.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:53 am to
Volks and me both posted threads on it the day after the shooting and got down voted to oblivion.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:56 am to
What about the tapes from the security cameras? Las Vegas his probably the most videoed city in the world...there are tapes.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:56 am to
There was a "glitch" with the tapes Gumbo, you didn't know that?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:57 am to
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Las Vegas his probably the most videoed city in the world...there are tapes.


Negative, that would be London. But I agree with the sentiment, need the tapes.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:57 am to
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He said police had learned that security guard Jesus Campos was shot in the hallway before at least 58 people at the Route 91 Harvest festival were killed and nearly 500 were injured.


So that makes null and void the statement about Paddock offing himself upon the guard's arrival. That's a lot of screwed up "initial" reporting there.

Has it been decided, yet, exactly when Paddock ate a bullet?
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:00 am to
Paddock probably mistook the guard for police. Or, he thought he couldn't refuse the security guard entry because he had all of his shite set up already.

He shoots the guard, who happened to come by by chance. The windows take some breaking and shooting to get them out. There's the six minutes.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:01 am to
I think this has been accepted as a change for a while now. It's just that it doesn't mean very much.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:03 am to
The progs have been given their marching orders and it is to shout down anyone asking questions.

Does that, itself, not raise red flags?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:04 am to
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The windows take some breaking and shooting to get them out.


I read somewhere he had a sledge hammer to take care of the windows.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:09 am to
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Volks and me both posted threads on it the day after the shooting and got down voted to oblivion.




thats because most of the board is composed of fricking morons who only believe what CNN or NPR tell them and dont dare deviate for fear of being ostracised by their other sheep friends.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97026 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:13 am to
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“This remains an ongoing investigation with a lot of moving parts,” MGM Resorts spokesperson Debra DeShong said in the statement


Uh, actually it's static b/c dude is dead.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97026 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:14 am to
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I read somewhere he had a sledge hammer to take care of the windows.


Didn't need to read it, it's in the photos of his room.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80001 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:40 am to
What? It's concrete proof of Deep Deep Deep State.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:41 am to
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So that makes null and void the statement about Paddock offing himself upon the guard's arrival. That's a lot of screwed up "initial" reporting there.

Has it been decided, yet, exactly when Paddock ate a bullet?




As someone who has ran such investigations (though nothing quite this big) let me defend the government a little here.

In a routine investigation where you aren't being hounded for details by multiple media outlets 24/7 you would tend to be much more concrete on what you said is a fact and what isn't, but in this case you have media demanding updates every hour on the hour and the government is trying to accommodate, and that means sometime putting things out there before you have fully vetted them.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:14 pm to
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let me defend the government a little here.


Why? Letting the media dictate what you put out and when you put it out shouldn't even be considered by the government if they base their reputation of investigating cases thoroughly before putting out debatable info.

If the government is unsure of the facts why expose untruths as information?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:19 pm to
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If the government is unsure of the facts why expose untruths as information?


They aren't purposely doing it (well God I hope not) It's just that in normal circumstances (or as normal as this kinda thing can be) you aren't answering questions before you have even had a chance to double check and double confirm every little fact.

You gotta remember, there are MULTIPLE agencies here investigating all giving information and all trying their best to answer every question honestly, but things happen. I mean just the hotel itself providing information as to when he check in and what not can get confused. This is an example of why it takes months and months to build a case that on the outside someone might be saying "what the frick is taking so long here?" Because facts have to be checked and rechecked and then checked again before taken to court.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93382 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:44 pm to
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They aren't purposely doing it (well God I hope not) It's just that in normal circumstances (or as normal as this kinda thing can be) you aren't answering questions before you have even had a chance to double check and double confirm every little fact.

You gotta remember, there are MULTIPLE agencies here investigating all giving information

so a few randoms on the internet are scooping the investigation when these teams should be establishing accurate facts around something as simple as the check-in date for the shooter???



this investigation is a clown show.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80001 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

In a routine investigation where you aren't being hounded for details by multiple media outlets 24/7 you would tend to be much more concrete on what you said is a fact and what isn't, but in this case you have media demanding updates every hour on the hour and the government is trying to accommodate, and that means sometime putting things out there before you have fully vetted them
No way man. Every "error" is "stranger and stranger" and clear evidence of a CIA operation.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27194 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:59 pm to
Expert analysis has shown that one shooter was from a distance consistent with SP. But analysis of audio collected from people in the crowd also shows that there was a second shooter about 100 yards closer.

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