View in: Desktop
Copyright @2023 TigerDroppings.com. All rights reserved.
- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Posted by
Message
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by boosiebadazz on 11/20/23 at 8:25 pm to dukkbill
First thing that stood out was venue. Why Fort Worth? Is there a particular judge there favorable to these COAs?
This post was edited on 11/20 at 8:26 pm
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by JJJimmyJimJames
on 11/20/23 at 8:26 pm to Bard

quote:Don't forget the direction MM was receiving from their dark money
NBC News ended up making a public apology to GMC and paid them over $100M as part of their settlement. I doubt Elon lets MM off so lightly.
RICO criminal conspiracy please
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by Bard
on 11/20/23 at 8:37 pm to JJJimmyJimJames

quote:
Don't forget the direction MM was receiving from their dark money
RICO criminal conspiracy please
I think getting RICO will be a stretch, unless they have been extremely sloppy with their internal docs and communications. If they are found to have done this through political bias though... there goes their 501c3 status.
In any other case I think a settlement would be reached (like the NBC/GMC case). I don't think Elon gives a frick about reaching a settlement, I think he wants a verdict (and he has the money to fight for it as long as it takes).
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by dukkbill
on 11/20/23 at 8:37 pm to boosiebadazz

I don’t know his record on disparagement cases, but Reed OConnor has a conservative reputation. Only 2 of the justices were appointed by a democrat ( both Clinton ). The rest are w Bush, Reagan, and Trump appointees. You never know what a judge will do, but Elon may have liked the look of that forum
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by NC_Tigah
on 11/20/23 at 9:32 pm to boosiebadazz


quote:Basically Eric Hananoki articles are the trail of breadcrumbs, but this Hananoki hit piece gets to origins.
… I haven’t read the underlying article. If MM presented it as widely viewed knowing how they manufactured it then it could come into play regarding liability and possibly punitives.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by Trevaylin
on 11/20/23 at 9:36 pm to boosiebadazz

you can get a link to the 18 page filing in an article on zero hedge
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by NIH
on 11/20/23 at 9:37 pm to boosiebadazz

That’s an odd federal district. You need a “local attorney” within a certain number of miles to function there even if you are admitted.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by boosiebadazz on 11/20/23 at 9:39 pm to NIH
Yeah I saw guys with Texas bar numbers were pending admission.
It’s too random to not be strategic.
It’s too random to not be strategic.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by Trevaylin
on 11/20/23 at 9:47 pm to boosiebadazz

Read the filing, it explains jurisdiction in detail
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by Robin Masters
on 11/20/23 at 9:48 pm to boosiebadazz

quote:
Yeah I saw guys with Texas bar numbers were pending admission. It’s too random to not be strategic.
You theorists and your wild conspiracies!
TD Sponsor
TD Fan
USA
Member since 2001

USA
Member since 2001
Thank you for supporting our sponsors Posted by Site Sponsor
to Everyone


Advertisement
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by boosiebadazz on 11/20/23 at 9:57 pm to Trevaylin
Jurisdiction is different than venue. They arguably had jurisdiction in any federal court in the country.
Why they chose Fort Worth for the venue is the interesting question.
Why they chose Fort Worth for the venue is the interesting question.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by Bunk Moreland
on 11/21/23 at 7:42 am to boosiebadazz


Here is XiNN's takedown.
LINK
quote:
Legal experts on technology and the First Amendment widely characterized X’s complaint on Monday as weak and opportunistically filed in a court that Musk likely believes will take his side.
“It’s one of those lawsuits that’s filed more for symbolism than for substance—as reflected in just how empty the allegations really are, and in where Musk chose to file, singling out the ultra-conservative Northern District of Texas despite its absence of any logical connection to the dispute,” said Steve Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas and a CNN legal analyst. “The choice of venue can best be described as trying to shore up a weak claim on the merits with a bench more likely to be sympathetic even to weak claims.”
“This reads like a press release, not a court filing to me,” said Joan Donovan, a professor of journalism and emerging media studies at Boston University. “X does admit the ads were shown next to hateful content, but argues it was ‘rare.’ This is the same strategy employed by advertisers that got YouTube to demonetize political content in 2017.”
One legal expert said the lawsuit could backfire.
“This lawsuit is riddled with legal flaws, and it is highly ironic that a platform that touts itself as a beacon of free speech would file a bogus case like this that flatly contradicts basic First Amendment principles and targets free speech by a critic,” First Amendment attorney Ted Boutrous told CNN. “And in some ways it’s a dream come true for the people at Media Matters because it could allow them to use the litigation discovery process to force X to divulge all sorts of embarrassing, damaging private information that it would much rather keep secret.”
Ken White, a First Amendment lawyer and criminal defense attorney based in Los Angeles, said the decision to file in Texas may have been intended to circumvent laws passed by California, the District of Columbia and dozens of states barring frivolous lawsuits meant to stifle public criticism.
“X filed this in federal court in Texas to avoid application of an anti-SLAPP statute,” White said on the X alternative BlueSky, using the acronym that refers to so-called “strategic lawsuits against public participation.”
In the federal appeals court that oversees Texas, anti-SLAPP statutes do not apply, White added.
“X’s purpose is to harass and abuse and maximize the cost of litigation, and anti-SLAPP statutes interfere with that aim,” he wrote.
LINK
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by tigerfan 64
on 11/21/23 at 7:44 am to boosiebadazz


quote:
Jurisdiction is different than venue. They arguably had jurisdiction in any federal court in the country.
Didn't Elon relocate X and Tesla corporate headquarters to Texas? That would explain choice of jurisdiction.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by tigerfan 64
on 11/21/23 at 7:46 am to Bunk Moreland


quote:
Legal experts on technology and the First Amendment widely characterized X’s complaint on Monday as weak and opportunistically filed in a court that Musk likely believes will take his side.
The Lawfare anti Trump tactics cannot be used against progressives.
The horror!!!
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by dgnx6
on 11/21/23 at 7:55 am to RedStickFox

quote:
I understand that people might not like media matters, but did they report anything false?
Well it depends. Supporting Israel is white nationalism to these folks.
If you are white and wave an American flag you are literally Hitler to these people.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by boosiebadazz on 11/21/23 at 8:04 am to Bunk Moreland
Interesting quotes on the choice of venue
Musk may also have a causation problem given his own recent activity on X.
Musk may also have a causation problem given his own recent activity on X.
This post was edited on 11/21 at 8:06 am
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by SWCBonfire
on 11/21/23 at 8:49 am to CrimsonTideMD

quote:
Once the ads populated, Media Matters edited and/or deleted (curated) non-Nazi content, took screen grabs of IBM Ads in a "Hitler Thread," and wrote articles berating IBM for buying the X ad space.
This tactic might have been less effective on businesses that didn't already have a pre-existing business relationship with Hitler.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by shinerfan
on 11/21/23 at 8:53 am to SWCBonfire

quote:
This tactic might have been less effective on businesses that didn't already have a pre-existing business relationship with Hitler.
You mean like Media Matters being funded by Hitler's boy the Sorosfuhrer?
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by NC_Tigah
on 11/21/23 at 8:54 am to boosiebadazz


quote:Referring to his critique of the ADL?
Musk may also have a causation problem given his own recent activity on X.
The ADL came to his defense, FWIW.
re: X sues Media Matters after report about ads next to antisemitic contentPosted by boosiebadazz on 11/21/23 at 9:08 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Referring to his critique of the ADL?
The ADL came to his defense, FWIW.
Referring to his dialectical hatred comment. If AT&T says they pulled their ads because of that comment and not the MM story, what are X’s damages from MM?
Popular
Back to top
