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WTH is the Supreme Court waiting for?

Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25043 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:26 pm
All conservative Justices getting round the clock security

This is nuts to keep putting this off as if no leak occurred. The justices, their families and their staff are in increasing danger the longer this gets delayed.

I think CJ Roberts wants the pressure to be felt. No other possible sane explanation. None.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5459 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:28 pm to
Roberts is trying to flip one of the conservative judges. That can be the only explanation that I can come up with. They are literally putting their lives at risk. Dems are bat shite crazy over killing babies.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45230 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

WTH is the Supreme Court waiting for


These decisions are typically formally announced in June
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16590 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:30 pm to
Relax, you may not be aware but the court has several poyentially landmark rulings on the docket with decisions due in the next month.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
1912 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:30 pm to
They cant release the decision without the dissent, and the dissenting judges have no real need to hurry this along.

So most likely this will happen on the last day because if they aren't turned in by then the decision is published without them.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:40 pm to
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Roberts is trying to flip one of the conservative judges.


Even Roberts has to understand the long-term, extreme damage that would be done to the court if one justice flips now. Want more leaks in the future? Change this outcome.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101471 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:42 pm to
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CJ Roberts


How's his exhaustive search for the leaker coming?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:45 pm to
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WTH is the Supreme Court waiting for?
You do not seem to understand how judicial opinions get written by multi-judge appellate courts.

They get a general idea where the majority lies, and then one guy writes a first draft opinion. Probably half of that draft is NOT something the rest of the majority wants to see included, so another 20 drafts and markups flow around the court until consensus is reached for a majority.

The leaked draft was the very first step. (You can see this in how ideological, vs judicial, the draft is.) The other steps ALWAYS take a long while, especially on contentious issues. The final draft may well produce the same result, but you can be pretty damn sure that the text will contain major differences.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 3:40 pm
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1912 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:46 pm to
People to leave their house so they can get out of their driveway
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12377 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:47 pm to
The decision will be realeased according to the original time schedule which will be in June. The thing I am waiting for is information on the leaker. The case of the leaker should be very easy to solve given the limited number of people with access to the information.
Posted by BigHeads
Red Stick
Member since May 2021
277 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:48 pm to
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The leaked draft was the very first step


First step to what, Mr. Senator? Are you saying the leaked draft was on purpose? How did you know that?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22439 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:56 pm to
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They cant release the decision without the dissent, and the dissenting judges have no real need to hurry this along.


I wonder if the left can weaponize this?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25043 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 2:58 pm to
Throw typically out the window when there is a leak of this magnitude. Or continue to reside in the little bubble where such things never exist.

The lives of Supreme Court justices are verifiably in danger not by my opinion, but from the threat assessment of those in charge of protecting them & the info they have received.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

The leaked draft was the very first step
quote:

First step to what, Mr. Senator?

Oh my.

The "first step" of the multiple steps that I outlined above.
quote:

Are you saying the leaked draft was on purpose?
I don't think that the draft grew legs and ran to the newspaper all by itself.

I do not pretend to know WHO released it or WHY. That is the difference between me and crazy people. I am quite comfortable acknowledging the things that I do not know.

ETA: compare/contrast the very next post
quote:

roberts allowed the leak so they have months to threaten and terrorize the conservative judges into changing their opinions, which can happen right up until they release the courts decision
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 3:12 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30043 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:10 pm to
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WTH is the Supreme Court waiting for?

it was scheduled for release in sept or oct i think, they arent changing that

roberts allowed the leak so they have months to threaten and terrorize the conservative judges into changing their opinions, which can happen right up until they release the courts decision.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18866 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:14 pm to
Roberts isn't through browbeating Kavanaugh yet.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:16 pm to
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This is nuts to k putting this off as if no leak occurred.

No it isn't. Altering the process would be nuts.

Major decisions are worked on until the very end, and usually not released until the last part of June or even early July.

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The justices, their families and their staff are in increasing danger the longer this gets delayed.

Why would that have any impact? You think the vitriol will be lessened after it is released?

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No other possible sane explanation. None.


Patently false.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:18 pm to
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it was scheduled for release in sept or oct i think, they arent changing that

Under no circumstance was the Court ever going to wait until the next session began to release an opinion.

Where are you getting that?
Posted by BigHeads
Red Stick
Member since May 2021
277 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:19 pm to
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That is the difference between me and crazy people. I am quite comfortable acknowledging the things that I do not know.


I suppose the people you told in the milk post are all the crazies? Because they don't believe your lies about milk being unsafe? Are you going to link some website written by Fauci to prove that unpasteurized milk is unsafe? Then when they don't believe your "proof", are you going to hurl insults at them and say they are crazy? Call them conspiracy theorists? A little gaslighting?

Stop spreading your hate and lies designed to stop the people from exercising their God given rights.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 3:21 pm to
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I suppose the people you told in the milk post are all the crazies? Because they don't believe your lies about milk being unsafe? Are you going to link some website written by Fauci to prove that unpasteurized milk is unsafe? Then when they don't believe your "proof", are you going to hurl insults at them and say they are crazy? Call them conspiracy theorists? A little gaslighting?

Stop spreading your hate and lies designed to stop the people from exercising their God given rights.



What are you talking about and how does it have any bearing whatsoever on the substance of this thread?
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