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re: Would you take up arms to force California to stay in the Union?

Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:24 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111562 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:24 am to
quote:

With that said, all of you who think the country would be better off without California are delusional.


It's not a question of "better off." It's a question of their own self-determination.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:25 am to
no, I'd take up arms to force them out though
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8331 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:25 am to
People here very much underestimate the value California provides to the country
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27014 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:25 am to
If it were to happen I'd prefer our real military be pulled from the shitholes they are in to secure any such measures.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98976 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:27 am to
Nope

ETA: because I believe secession is legal.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45321 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:27 am to
According to the SF Chronicle, CA is in debt to the tune of over $400B.

Plus,
quote:

the teachers retirement system alone faces a $72.7 billion unfunded liability.


lol they aren't going anywhere on their own. They are going to need a bailout from the US govt not too far down the road.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9269 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:29 am to
No. As a Southerner, I could not support the invasion of a fellow state.

I don't think the South was right in the Civil War. But I can't see what was done to us done to someone else. I sit this one out.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6939 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:29 am to
Considering they pay most of the fly over states budgets with their tax contributions, no one is letting them go.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20912 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:31 am to
quote:

People here very much underestimate the value California provides to the country



Give me hard facts.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20912 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Considering they pay most of the fly over states budgets with their tax contributions, no one is letting them go.



I hear Colorado River water can be very expensive.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111562 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:33 am to
quote:

fly over states budgets with their tax contributions, no one is letting them go.


bullshite.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:34 am to
frick no. I would however take up arms with the Californians that want to split California in half and stay in the Union(should that happen, of course.
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:36 am to
I would take up arms to force them to leave only so long as we built a wall and wouldn't let the lip cards back in!
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11474 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:36 am to
I'd help them pack

These fackers are going nowhere, unfortunately, too much money to lose
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46470 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:41 am to
quote:


No. I would be willing to send them a parting gift.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7144 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:45 am to
quote:

People here very much underestimate the value California provides to the country


That is true. Short-run, it would hurt economically.

But, CA has water issues..serious water issues. And energy issues. Guess offshore drilling will be reconsidered.

Of course, they could buy both from the USA....
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:46 am to
lol not in the slightest
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Do we get to keep the conservative parts of California?


We might have to take up arms to keep them IN the union (after all California couldn't survive without their "forced tribute"--taxation)
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:54 am to
I would not participate in a civil war of any type. But I would be interested in the dumbass Americans who are willing to die for such a cause. Could have a cleansing affect. Maybe we're overdue for some culling of extremists on both ends of the political spectrum.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/4/17 at 10:55 am to
Yes.
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