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re: Would you support a separate country for Black Americans?

Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27172 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:16 am to
Should be 40 acres, or are we using inflationary numbers?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:16 am to
Here is my answer, in the form of a 54 tweet tweet storm by a reactionary on twitter

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Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124525 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:18 am to
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Would you support a separate country for Black Americans?
quote:

Rep. Keith Ellison has supported this.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55532 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:19 am to
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Should be 40 acres, or are we using inflationary numbers?



You're right and I misrembered. Probably only fair, though, that land isn't exactly good for crops.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:22 am to
True.

location would be critical, but being realistic (in this hypothetical) any location that would be worth the trouble would be owned/occupied already by another population.

Worthless land would result in another liberia.

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Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26588 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:22 am to
Good Lord. Despite then rhetoric you see on the news and on here, the average black American wants similar things that you want: a better job and to enjoy leisure
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9286 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:22 am to
No.

We've had it drilled in our heads for years now that segregation is wrong, and, actually, it is.

We gain nothing as a society by insulating ourselves from one another. People need to learn to live with one another.

Homogenous societies are powerful because they share values, morals, and culture. Sharing the same skin color is superficial.

What we need to be working on in America is a system of shared ethics that transcend race. Separating ourselves means admitting that we just can't be taught. And that goes for whites, blacks, and everyone else. That seems really backward for a traditionally idealistic and optimistic country like America.

Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:22 am to
the frick is that matter with some people
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:22 am to
Before I answer, would this proposed country for blacks be self supporting or subsidized by whitey?
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13512 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:22 am to
Well, I guess we could declare war on Mexico. In the first Mexican/Black American War we can take the Federal States of Coahuila, Nuevo León, and Tamaulipas.?! This should be enough for the AAFS (African American Free State).
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6959 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:23 am to
Do biracial people automatically get passports?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55532 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:24 am to
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Homogenous societies are powerful because they share values, morals, and culture. Sharing the same skin color is superficial.



DA: Is there any homogenous culture in which this is the case?
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9310 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:26 am to
Yep. If they hate America we should send them back


If they love America and want to work hard and live within American culture and values they should stay.

Same with any other race, religion or culture.

Don't stay if you don't like it.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22011 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:27 am to
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No. This will not help unify the American people. If anything, it will only widen the gap between white America and black America.



Yes I would be in favor of a DMZ separating the countries too!

This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68707 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:31 am to
Take this Red Pill and call me in the morning

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I was not always sick of the misbehavior of blacks. In the now infinitely remote early Sixties, when I was a student in the last all-white class in Virginia’s rural King George High–graduated ‘64–integration was just beginning. To the extent that I thought about race, the question was abstract, a matter of moral principles, of ideals and fairness, unrelated to an actual people with actual characteristics who might not integrate well. Blacks had been mistreated. If given the opportunity they would rise and join American civilization. That they might not occurred only to those with experience, which did not include me.

When my parents, wiser than I–if it is possible to be wiser than a seventeen-year-old–said that integration would not work. I didn’t believe them.

Time went by, and it didn’t work. Trouble began. Blacks became hostile, .demanding this and demanding that. Neighborhoods became dangerous. Schools, newly mixed, encountered The Gap, intractable and immortal, that is the heart and cause of our racial disaster. The riots arrived. Racial attacks on whites became common, covered up by the media. This censorship possible in the days before the internet.

The country began, though I didn’t recognize it at the time, as n.either did the country, treating blacks as a different category of humanity who could not be expected to obey the laws and rules or the expectations of civility.

For a while my sympathy held. I was very young. Further, I had no experience of a school with a large black population. I justified the behavior of blacks as consequent to former privation. Surely it would change.

It didn’t. Years passed. We saw corrupted schools, lowered standards, white flight, and journalistic dishonesty. More cities burned.




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As I mentioned, my parents had said that blacks were could not function in the First World. It seemed that they were right. Desegregation had not worked, nor integration, nor quotas nor affirmative action nor Head Start. What didn’t work was turning blacks into members of a European civilization in which they had no interest. It would have worked no better had blacks lived in China, Japan, or Russia.

Nothing worked and nothing is going to work. There is clarity in this realization, a clarity to admitting what is actually happening. It avoids tortured reasoning to show that the dysfunction of blacks is due to anything and everything but blacks themselves. One need not make endless excuses for endless bad behavior, for the crime and dependency, the racial attacks, and the degradation of society.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:34 am to
And the conservatives of this board still believe they arent racist. Lol.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:35 am to
That is very blue pill of you.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55532 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:36 am to
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And the conservatives of this board still believe they arent racist. Lol.



I am at peace with it.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22024 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:36 am to
Uzblackistan?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:37 am to
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Yep. If they hate America we should send them back


Theyre Americans thus sending them back doesnt make sense. Hell your lineage was probably here AFTER theirs.

quote:

they love America and want to work hard and live within American culture and values they should stay. 

Same with any other race, religion or culture. 

Don't stay if you don't like it.



You see this is one of the biggest problems with modern conservatives. You seem to think that you control the comings and goings of people based on what your values are. Go frick off
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