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Would you agree to a bill with this compromise?
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:21 pm
I dont know if this is something they are really willing to compromise over or just a persons opinion but someone on reddit said McConnell would agree to a compromise if it was:
1. Amnesty for DACA
2. No Amnesty for anyone who entered after age 18
3. $20b for the wall
How would yall feel about that? Seems like a semi-reasonable deal.
1. Amnesty for DACA
2. No Amnesty for anyone who entered after age 18
3. $20b for the wall
How would yall feel about that? Seems like a semi-reasonable deal.
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:21 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
1. Amnesty for DACA
depends on what you mean by amnesty.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:22 pm to SundayFunday
No amnesty. They can get green cards and start the process. No one deserves to get squatter's rights when it comes to citizenship.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:23 pm to SundayFunday
with this proviso:
No voting rights for those Dreamers that don't go through the proper ciitzenship protocols and no chain migration.
No voting rights for those Dreamers that don't go through the proper ciitzenship protocols and no chain migration.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:23 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
1. Amnesty for DACA
Nope. Complete deal breaker.
quote:See above
2. No Amnesty for anyone who entered after age 18
quote:
3. $20b for the wall
I'll give you 1 & 2 if you give me 3 & elimination of chain migration. Also, enacting 1 & 2 would be suspended until COMPLETION of the wall. Until then, the DACA folks would be legal but not citizens.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:23 pm to SundayFunday
Bruh... when you hold all the cards you get it all. How about no amnesty no daca and yes wall
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:24 pm to SundayFunday
Honestly, where is the Dems leverage here? DACA can just run out and the president can set the enforcement principles moving forward. If Dems hold up appropriations over wall funding, and shut down the government, again, the optics for them are terrible.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:27 pm to upgrayedd
No amnesty
Go to the end of the line
a fence on voting status
no chain migration
Go to the end of the line
a fence on voting status
no chain migration
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:32 pm to SundayFunday
End the diversity visa lottery. End chain migration. Build the wall.
In exchange, DACA can stay subject to good behavior. After 12 years, if the wall is built, they can begin the process for citizenship without having to return to their home country. They do not get any sort of priority. They start at the back of the line like anyone else.
No wall, no path to citizenship that does not include them returning home.
In exchange, DACA can stay subject to good behavior. After 12 years, if the wall is built, they can begin the process for citizenship without having to return to their home country. They do not get any sort of priority. They start at the back of the line like anyone else.
No wall, no path to citizenship that does not include them returning home.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:32 pm to SundayFunday
1 Wall.
2 Merit based immigration. No lotteries or chains.
3 No citizenship, permanent work visa that allows participation in paid into government entitlements such as social security, but no welfare. No vote, and deportation upon felony conviction.
2 Merit based immigration. No lotteries or chains.
3 No citizenship, permanent work visa that allows participation in paid into government entitlements such as social security, but no welfare. No vote, and deportation upon felony conviction.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:34 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
. Amnesty for DACA
but why?
does this help America?
does this give warm fuzzies to nutless entities?
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:34 pm to SundayFunday
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:35 pm to SundayFunday
change #1 to green cards for daca, no benefits, no voting rites for 10 years, if they get in any kind of trouble(gangs, dui, etc.) during that 10 years, they gone.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:35 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
No amnesty. They can get green cards and start the process. No one deserves to get squatter's rights when it comes to citizenship.
This
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:37 pm to SundayFunday
No Amnesty. There has to be a cost or the next invasion starts the second after it's made law.
Period.
Now - maybe they can stay, get expedited credentials (for a fee), then push back citizenship/voting for 25 years - and if they commit a crime or APPLY for benefits - immediate deportation.
And, we end chain migration for everybody.
That's as far as I'm willing to go - anything else rewards (heavily) bad behavior and just sets the stage for another invasion.
Period.
Now - maybe they can stay, get expedited credentials (for a fee), then push back citizenship/voting for 25 years - and if they commit a crime or APPLY for benefits - immediate deportation.
And, we end chain migration for everybody.
That's as far as I'm willing to go - anything else rewards (heavily) bad behavior and just sets the stage for another invasion.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:38 pm to SundayFunday
NO.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:38 pm to SundayFunday
It's a non-starter with your #1. They need to follow the legal process already in place for coming to this country. Period, end of discussion.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 1:55 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
1. Amnesty for DACA
No. If you entered illegally, go back home and come in legally
quote:
2. No Amnesty for anyone who entered after age 18
No amnesty at all
quote:
3. $20b for the wall
Full funding.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:53 pm to dantes69
quote:
change #1 to green cards for daca, no benefits, no voting rites for 10 years, if they get in any kind of trouble(gangs, dui, etc.) during that 10 years, they gone.
I agree with this right here. I think the green card rule would be the best way to go about this.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 2:58 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
I agree with this right here. I think the green card rule would be the best way to go about this.
I'm ok with DACA not being given citizenship, but they need a path to citizenship. By it's very design, people here under DACA protections are required to be lawful, contributing members of society. They cannot break a single law or they will lose their protected status.
They are in a limbo of sorts, they can't become citizens, and they don't want to leave this country. There is no path to citizenship for them.
Green Cards which allow them to live and work is a great start and after a certain period they can become citizens.
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